From anwar83 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  2 16:17:36 2008
From: anwar83 at gmail.com (Khairul Anwar)
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:17:36 +0800
Subject: [myoss] watch in HPUX
Message-ID: <1f0d9a470812020017s26d6fa18hf4bffa64f5056d36@mail.gmail.com>

Salam and hi,

Does anyone know what is the equivalent of command "watch" in hp-ux? I means
the "watch" that come together with CentOS/Redhat.

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From sharuzzaman at gmail.com  Tue Dec  2 16:38:45 2008
From: sharuzzaman at gmail.com (Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan)
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:38:45 +0800
Subject: [myoss] watch in HPUX
In-Reply-To: <1f0d9a470812020017s26d6fa18hf4bffa64f5056d36@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1f0d9a470812020017s26d6fa18hf4bffa64f5056d36@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <295041390812020038v4b9ae7f4v27a4c772d9aba29f@mail.gmail.com>

This blog writer writes his own "watch emulator" for HP-UX

http://www.mhubel.com/index.php/db2-blog/The-watch-command.html



2008/12/2 Khairul Anwar <anwar83 at gmail.com>

> Salam and hi,
>
> Does anyone know what is the equivalent of command "watch" in hp-ux? I
> means the "watch" that come together with CentOS/Redhat.
>
> --
> Khairul Anwar
>
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>
>


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From yeak at md.com.my  Wed Dec  3 02:49:42 2008
From: yeak at md.com.my (Yeak Nai Siew)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 02:49:42 +0800
Subject: [myoss] watch in HPUX
In-Reply-To: <1f0d9a470812020017s26d6fa18hf4bffa64f5056d36@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1f0d9a470812020017s26d6fa18hf4bffa64f5056d36@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1B0CE9DA-9739-4A10-92CA-8F094B008D99@md.com.my>

while [ true ]; do clear; date; echo hello world; sleep 2; done

Change "echo hello world" to your commands.


On 02/12/2008, at 4:17 PM, Khairul Anwar wrote:

> Salam and hi,
>
> Does anyone know what is the equivalent of command "watch" in hp-ux?  
> I means the "watch" that come together with CentOS/Redhat.
>
> -- 
> Khairul Anwar
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss


-- 
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My Directory Sdn Bhd (487437-D)
C-9-4.2 Mines Waterfront Business Park
3 Jalan Tasik
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Tel: +603 8948 0525
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From anwar83 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  3 08:30:56 2008
From: anwar83 at gmail.com (Khairul Anwar)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:30:56 +0800
Subject: [myoss] watch in HPUX
In-Reply-To: <1B0CE9DA-9739-4A10-92CA-8F094B008D99@md.com.my>
References: <1f0d9a470812020017s26d6fa18hf4bffa64f5056d36@mail.gmail.com>
	<1B0CE9DA-9739-4A10-92CA-8F094B008D99@md.com.my>
Message-ID: <1f0d9a470812021630hfc72af3o80d015576ca8fc22@mail.gmail.com>

thanks a lot guys!!

2008/12/3 Yeak Nai Siew <yeak at md.com.my>

> while [ true ]; do clear; date; echo hello world; sleep 2; done
> Change "echo hello world" to your commands.
>
>
> On 02/12/2008, at 4:17 PM, Khairul Anwar wrote:
>
> Salam and hi,
>
> Does anyone know what is the equivalent of command "watch" in hp-ux? I
> means the "watch" that come together with CentOS/Redhat.
>
> --
> Khairul Anwar
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>
>
>
> --
> *Yeak Nai Siew*
>
> My Directory Sdn Bhd (487437-D)
> C-9-4.2 Mines Waterfront Business Park
> 3 Jalan Tasik
> 43300 Mines Resort City, Selangor, Malaysia
> Tel: +603 8948 0525
> Fax: +603 8948 0236
> http://www.md.com.my
>
> Your Open Source Partner
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>
>


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From dinesh at alphaque.com  Wed Dec  3 17:01:06 2008
From: dinesh at alphaque.com (Dinesh Nair)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:01:06 +0800
Subject: [myoss] JOB: PHP Application Developers and Systems Engineers
Message-ID: <20081203170106.06163775@prophet.alphaque.com>


About QubeConnect

QubeConnect was founded and is run by tech-savvy people who have been
involved in the development and management of large scale software
projects and understand that great ideas require the right culture and
environment to grow into reality. We are looking for hardcore software
hackers with top notch development talent who thrive in high energy
environments, who have the passion and tenacity to develop world class
technologies, who value intelligence and diversity in ideas and who
invent, imagine, create and explore interesting ideas. QubeConnect
strongly believes in the technical merits of the Open Source Software
movement. You will be directly involved in the development of existing and
future components in all elements of the OSS stack including operating
system development, network infrastructure testing and tuning, security
focused work and rich web application support system development.


PHP Application Developers
(Kuala Lumpur - Bukit Jalil)

Requirements:

    * Candidate must possess at least a Primary/Secondary School/SPM/"O"
Level, Higher Secondary/STPM/"A" Level/Pre-U, Professional Certificate,
Diploma, Advanced/Higher/Graduate Diploma, Bachelor's Degree, Post
Graduate Diploma or Professional Degree in any field.
    * Required skill(s): PHP.
    * Preferred skill(s): MySQL, PostgreSQL.
    * Required language(s): English.
    * Applicants must be willing to work in Bukit Jalil.
    * Applicants should be Malaysian citizens or hold relevant residence
status.
    * Preferably junior executives specializing in IT/Computer - Software
or equivalent.
    * Full-Time positions available.
    * Comprehensive understanding of web related technology.
    * Knowledge of AJAX, open source as well as telecommunications
technology would be an added bonus.
    * Possesses a solid understanding of algorithms and data structures,
experience in procedural and object oriented design, knowledge of
relational database design as well as have a background in software
testing and defect tracking methodologies.


Systems Engineers
(Kuala Lumpur - Bukit Jalil)

Requirements:
    * Systems administration knowledge of FreeBSD or Linux
    * An understanding of Internet Protocol networks and routing
    * Working knowldge of firewalls and network address translation
    * Rudimentary knowledge of Voice over IP
    * A resourceful and independent nature
    * Legacy telecommunications experience will be an added advantage
    * Minimum 2 years in a similar capacity


Applicants should send complete CV to dinesh (at) qubeconnect.com with
subject line of "JOB: PHP Application Developer" or "JOB: Systems
Engineer" as relevant. 

-- 
Regards,                           /\_/\   "All dogs go to heaven."
dinesh at alphaque.com                (0 0)   http://www.openmalaysiablog.com/
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From anwar83 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  3 18:20:43 2008
From: anwar83 at gmail.com (Khairul Anwar)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:20:43 +0800
Subject: [myoss] watch in HPUX
In-Reply-To: <1f0d9a470812021630hfc72af3o80d015576ca8fc22@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1f0d9a470812020017s26d6fa18hf4bffa64f5056d36@mail.gmail.com>
	<1B0CE9DA-9739-4A10-92CA-8F094B008D99@md.com.my>
	<1f0d9a470812021630hfc72af3o80d015576ca8fc22@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1f0d9a470812030220s4cf6f042u9f0cff625898c250@mail.gmail.com>

now i wonder, is there any good reason why there is no "watch" in HP-UX?

by the way thanks again for the response. simple and working beautifully.

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Khairul Anwar <anwar83 at gmail.com> wrote:

> thanks a lot guys!!
>
> 2008/12/3 Yeak Nai Siew <yeak at md.com.my>
>
>> while [ true ]; do clear; date; echo hello world; sleep 2; done
>> Change "echo hello world" to your commands.
>>
>>
>> On 02/12/2008, at 4:17 PM, Khairul Anwar wrote:
>>
>> Salam and hi,
>>
>> Does anyone know what is the equivalent of command "watch" in hp-ux? I
>> means the "watch" that come together with CentOS/Redhat.
>>
>> --
>> Khairul Anwar
>> _______________________________________________
>> myoss mailing list
>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Yeak Nai Siew*
>>
>> My Directory Sdn Bhd (487437-D)
>> C-9-4.2 Mines Waterfront Business Park
>> 3 Jalan Tasik
>> 43300 Mines Resort City, Selangor, Malaysia
>> Tel: +603 8948 0525
>> Fax: +603 8948 0236
>> http://www.md.com.my
>>
>> Your Open Source Partner
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> myoss mailing list
>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Khairul Anwar
>



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From sharuzzaman at gmail.com  Wed Dec  3 18:45:28 2008
From: sharuzzaman at gmail.com (Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:45:28 +0800
Subject: [myoss] watch in HPUX
In-Reply-To: <1f0d9a470812030220s4cf6f042u9f0cff625898c250@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1f0d9a470812020017s26d6fa18hf4bffa64f5056d36@mail.gmail.com>
	<1B0CE9DA-9739-4A10-92CA-8F094B008D99@md.com.my>
	<1f0d9a470812021630hfc72af3o80d015576ca8fc22@mail.gmail.com>
	<1f0d9a470812030220s4cf6f042u9f0cff625898c250@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <295041390812030245m366e1badsc98e01bfed7545f8@mail.gmail.com>

watch in Linux distro comes from the procps package. The project is at
http://procps.sf.net

I believe it was heavily tweaked to work on Linux, although there exist
cmdwatch in FreeBSD

http://www.freshports.org/sysutils/cmdwatch/

If the code is POSIX-compliant enough, I don't see why you can't take the
code and compile it in HP-UX for your own use.

If you are able to do so, you might want to tell the watch maintainer that
it works in HP-UX :)


2008/12/3 Khairul Anwar <anwar83 at gmail.com>

> now i wonder, is there any good reason why there is no "watch" in HP-UX?
>
> by the way thanks again for the response. simple and working beautifully.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Khairul Anwar <anwar83 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> thanks a lot guys!!
>>
>> 2008/12/3 Yeak Nai Siew <yeak at md.com.my>
>>
>>> while [ true ]; do clear; date; echo hello world; sleep 2; done
>>> Change "echo hello world" to your commands.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02/12/2008, at 4:17 PM, Khairul Anwar wrote:
>>>
>>> Salam and hi,
>>>
>>> Does anyone know what is the equivalent of command "watch" in hp-ux? I
>>> means the "watch" that come together with CentOS/Redhat.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Khairul Anwar
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> myoss mailing list
>>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Yeak Nai Siew*
>>>
>>> My Directory Sdn Bhd (487437-D)
>>> C-9-4.2 Mines Waterfront Business Park
>>> 3 Jalan Tasik
>>> 43300 Mines Resort City, Selangor, Malaysia
>>> Tel: +603 8948 0525
>>> Fax: +603 8948 0236
>>> http://www.md.com.my
>>>
>>> Your Open Source Partner
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> myoss mailing list
>>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Khairul Anwar
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Khairul Anwar
>
> _______________________________________________
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>


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From umarzuki at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 09:34:51 2008
From: umarzuki at gmail.com (Umarzuki Mochlis)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:34:51 +0800
Subject: [myoss] Make OpenBSD install iso
Message-ID: <52d26d930812031734h1b915f3dk55a46f51d5e33205@mail.gmail.com>

I tried using tutorial from
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~parsec/information/OpenBSD_3.9_with_AAC_instructions.txt
to get support for AAC scsi adapter but it didn't produce the install image,
just the boot cd with base 4.4 installation.

I also couldn't get the newly compiled image to boot 100% (it hangs during
booting up OpenBSD).

Since it did not produce the install image, I had to use install cd
downloaded and burned from OpenBSD mirror when asked for installation media
during installation.

Did I missed any step? I'm planning on making a howto in Bahasa Melayu once
I got this sorted out :)

-- 
Regards,

Umarzuki Mochlis
http://gameornot.net
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From umarzuki at gmail.com  Thu Dec  4 16:46:35 2008
From: umarzuki at gmail.com (Umarzuki Mochlis)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 16:46:35 +0800
Subject: [myoss] Make OpenBSD install iso
In-Reply-To: <52d26d930812031734h1b915f3dk55a46f51d5e33205@mail.gmail.com>
References: <52d26d930812031734h1b915f3dk55a46f51d5e33205@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52d26d930812040046h10b46cc5w2ae3b800e33995cd@mail.gmail.com>

I got message:

>
> <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=iceweasel-a&rls=org.debian:en-US:unofficial&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=drm+at+vga1+unsupported+piix+pm0&spell=1>
>
> drm at vga1 unsupported
> piixpm0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 "ServerWorks OSB4" rev 0x4f: polling
> iic at piixpm0 not configured
>
> It seems that i need to apply patch and recompile, any suggestion?
http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openbsd-misc/2008/11/10/4051334


2008/12/4 Umarzuki Mochlis <umarzuki at gmail.com>

> I tried using tutorial from
> http://www-personal.umich.edu/~parsec/information/OpenBSD_3.9_with_AAC_instructions.txt<http://www-personal.umich.edu/%7Eparsec/information/OpenBSD_3.9_with_AAC_instructions.txt>
> to get support for AAC scsi adapter but it didn't produce the install
> image, just the boot cd with base 4.4 installation.
>
> I also couldn't get the newly compiled image to boot 100% (it hangs during
> booting up OpenBSD).
>
> Since it did not produce the install image, I had to use install cd
> downloaded and burned from OpenBSD mirror when asked for installation media
> during installation.
>
> Did I missed any step? I'm planning on making a howto in Bahasa Melayu once
> I got this sorted out :)
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Umarzuki Mochlis
> http://gameornot.net
>



-- 
Regards,

Umarzuki Mochlis
http://gameornot.net
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From kjteoh at ix.net.my  Thu Dec  4 17:13:17 2008
From: kjteoh at ix.net.my (kjteoh)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 17:13:17 +0800 (MYT)
Subject: [myoss] linux live
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0812041704530.23440@tomoko.arc.net.my>

Hello Everyone.

I've just tried my hands on putting together a linux-live distro based on 
slackware 12.1

It will boot of a USB pendrive kind of device.

Please see ftp://203.115.226.130/pub/tomoko/0.98/readme.txt for more info.

Its around 607Mbs.  Its a pretty complete Slackware 12.1 distribution with 
many development programs.  So its quite likely that you can download XXX 
and ./configure make make install and the like.

Desktop is XFCE or Fluxbox

I put this together mainly because I just got a Asus EeePC and making 
Linux Boot of a Micro-SD was an idea to take further.  (not new .. not old 
too).

Thanks for reading.
--
kjteoh

From kq at kquee.com  Thu Dec  4 17:22:25 2008
From: kq at kquee.com (Kelvin Quee)
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:22:25 +0800
Subject: [myoss] linux live
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0812041704530.23440@tomoko.arc.net.my>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0812041704530.23440@tomoko.arc.net.my>
Message-ID: <4937A151.9070407@kquee.com>

Beautiful and thank you so much for sharing.  :)

But does it have a sexy name? (ala Knoppix?)

Kelvin Quee
+65 9177 3635

http://kquee.com/contact



kjteoh wrote:
> Hello Everyone.
>
> I've just tried my hands on putting together a linux-live distro based
> on slackware 12.1
>
> It will boot of a USB pendrive kind of device.
>
> Please see ftp://203.115.226.130/pub/tomoko/0.98/readme.txt for more
> info.
>
> Its around 607Mbs.  Its a pretty complete Slackware 12.1 distribution
> with many development programs.  So its quite likely that you can
> download XXX and ./configure make make install and the like.
>
> Desktop is XFCE or Fluxbox
>
> I put this together mainly because I just got a Asus EeePC and making
> Linux Boot of a Micro-SD was an idea to take further.  (not new .. not
> old too).
>
> Thanks for reading.
> -- 
> kjteoh
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>

From kjteoh at ix.net.my  Thu Dec  4 17:54:49 2008
From: kjteoh at ix.net.my (kjteoh)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 17:54:49 +0800 (MYT)
Subject: [myoss] linux live
In-Reply-To: <4937A151.9070407@kquee.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0812041704530.23440@tomoko.arc.net.my>
	<4937A151.9070407@kquee.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0812041752330.24052@tomoko.arc.net.my>


tomoko linux i guess.  I generally plan to follow every major release with 
Slackware but we will have to wait and see about that.  Meantime enjoy and 
follow the linux-live.org links and others.


--
kjteoh

On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Kelvin Quee wrote:

> Beautiful and thank you so much for sharing.  :)
>
> But does it have a sexy name? (ala Knoppix?)
>
> Kelvin Quee
> +65 9177 3635
>
> http://kquee.com/contact
>
>
>
> kjteoh wrote:
>> Hello Everyone.
>>
>> I've just tried my hands on putting together a linux-live distro based
>> on slackware 12.1
>>
>> It will boot of a USB pendrive kind of device.
>>
>> Please see ftp://203.115.226.130/pub/tomoko/0.98/readme.txt for more
>> info.
>>
>> Its around 607Mbs.  Its a pretty complete Slackware 12.1 distribution
>> with many development programs.  So its quite likely that you can
>> download XXX and ./configure make make install and the like.
>>
>> Desktop is XFCE or Fluxbox
>>
>> I put this together mainly because I just got a Asus EeePC and making
>> Linux Boot of a Micro-SD was an idea to take further.  (not new .. not
>> old too).
>>
>> Thanks for reading.
>> --
>> kjteoh
>> _______________________________________________
>> myoss mailing list
>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>

From gopi at arc.net.my  Fri Dec  5 17:04:26 2008
From: gopi at arc.net.my (Gopi Kurup)
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 17:04:26 +0800
Subject: [myoss] GIMP knowledge & training
In-Reply-To: <20081203170106.06163775@prophet.alphaque.com>
References: <20081203170106.06163775@prophet.alphaque.com>
Message-ID: <20081205170426.955624t81xwgr4be@webmail.arc.net.my>

Dear all,

There is some interest from local illustrators (for kids books  
primarily) in learning and using GIMP. Anyone who is conversant enough  
(or know someone who is) to provide free training to local  
illustrators for a couple of hours?

Please let Justin or me know by e-mail.

Regards,
gopi.




From najmi.zabidi at gmail.com  Fri Dec  5 17:50:24 2008
From: najmi.zabidi at gmail.com (Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:50:24 +0800
Subject: [myoss] GIMP knowledge & training
In-Reply-To: <20081205170426.955624t81xwgr4be@webmail.arc.net.my>
References: <20081203170106.06163775@prophet.alphaque.com>
	<20081205170426.955624t81xwgr4be@webmail.arc.net.my>
Message-ID: <cf09ac7f0812050150n4667cbact130b107feae0a8da@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Gopi Kurup <gopi at arc.net.my> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> There is some interest from local illustrators (for kids books primarily) in
> learning and using GIMP. Anyone who is conversant enough (or know someone
> who is) to provide free training to local illustrators for a couple of
> hours?
>
> Please let Justin or me know by e-mail.
>
> Regards,
> gopi.
>



Hello, I also want to join in (with payment of course) if anyone
holding this workshop. Inkscape also +1.

From umarzuki at gmail.com  Fri Dec  5 20:59:24 2008
From: umarzuki at gmail.com (Umarzuki Mochlis)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 20:59:24 +0800
Subject: [myoss] GIMP knowledge & training
In-Reply-To: <cf09ac7f0812050150n4667cbact130b107feae0a8da@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20081203170106.06163775@prophet.alphaque.com>
	<20081205170426.955624t81xwgr4be@webmail.arc.net.my>
	<cf09ac7f0812050150n4667cbact130b107feae0a8da@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52d26d930812050459u421fc91bu4cd738e6810bd23e@mail.gmail.com>

me too ;)

2008/12/5 Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi <najmi.zabidi at gmail.com>

> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Gopi Kurup <gopi at arc.net.my> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > There is some interest from local illustrators (for kids books primarily)
> in
> > learning and using GIMP. Anyone who is conversant enough (or know someone
> > who is) to provide free training to local illustrators for a couple of
> > hours?
> >
> > Please let Justin or me know by e-mail.
> >
> > Regards,
> > gopi.
> >
>
>
>
> Hello, I also want to join in (with payment of course) if anyone
> holding this workshop. Inkscape also +1.
> _______________________________________________
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From samngnet at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  7 21:13:05 2008
From: samngnet at yahoo.com (Sam Ng)
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 05:13:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [myoss] GIMP knowledge & training
In-Reply-To: <52d26d930812050459u421fc91bu4cd738e6810bd23e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <813582.59540.qm@web52803.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hmm, 

How conversant is conversant enough anyway? I've been using Gimp and Inkscape for a while now, and know how to operate the basics. Nothing too fancy.

--- On Fri, 12/5/08, Umarzuki Mochlis <umarzuki at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Umarzuki Mochlis <umarzuki at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [myoss] GIMP knowledge & training
> To: "A general discussion list on Free/Open Source Software in Malaysia." <myoss at lists.foss.org.my>
> Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 8:59 PM
> me too ;)
> 
> 2008/12/5 Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi
> <najmi.zabidi at gmail.com>
> 
> > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Gopi Kurup
> <gopi at arc.net.my> wrote:
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > There is some interest from local illustrators
> (for kids books primarily)
> > in
> > > learning and using GIMP. Anyone who is conversant
> enough (or know someone
> > > who is) to provide free training to local
> illustrators for a couple of
> > > hours?
> > >
> > > Please let Justin or me know by e-mail.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > gopi.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello, I also want to join in (with payment of course)
> if anyone
> > holding this workshop. Inkscape also +1.
> > _______________________________________________
> > myoss mailing list
> > myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> > http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Umarzuki Mochlis
> http://gameornot.net
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss


      

From kaeru at inigo-tech.com  Mon Dec  8 14:27:51 2008
From: kaeru at inigo-tech.com (Khairil Yusof)
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:27:51 +0800
Subject: [myoss] GIMP knowledge & training
In-Reply-To: <813582.59540.qm@web52803.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <813582.59540.qm@web52803.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1228717671.9928.55.camel@beast.inigo-tech.com>

On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 05:13 -0800, Sam Ng wrote:
> Hmm, 
> 
> How conversant is conversant enough anyway? I've been using Gimp and
> Inkscape for a while now, and know how to operate the basics. Nothing
> too fancy.

Probably for illustration for kids book at least be comfortable enough
with the features of Inkscape in this workflow:

http://www.inkscape.org/screenshots/gallery/inkscape-0.45-comics.png

Expect also how to deal with setting up and using scanner, tablet,
exporting/sharing files and printing proofs for clients.

It's easier if they're from traditional media. If they have
Photoshop/Illustrator background, it's not going to be fun. 

If you're doing Gimp for illustration/painting, you're looking at also
working with brushes and importing/working with .abr files for things
like pastel/crayon/pencil "brushes" and also how unlike Photoshop, the
eraser in Gimp is treated as a separate input device.

I may do it as a MyOSS Meetup (for Inkscape). Not comfortable enough
with Gimp for illustration just yet where it's likely to be used as a
digital replacement for traditional media.




From arizabo at gmail.com  Mon Dec  8 21:04:41 2008
From: arizabo at gmail.com (Ahmad Rizal)
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 21:04:41 +0800
Subject: [myoss] Microsoft Black Screen = Linux/BSD Opportunity
In-Reply-To: <1c098afd0812080501o7d351a6bs70ea403ccf0ae015@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1c098afd0812080501o7d351a6bs70ea403ccf0ae015@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1c098afd0812080504gd53c132u1c6199484310c5e1@mail.gmail.com>

Salam and greeting to all,

currently microsoft is targeting home user with pirated Windows OS with
their Black Screen,
limiting the OS capability and make troublesome to the user.

i have been helping some of the users to migrate to either ubuntu or fedora
and the response also very good. i believe many others also willing to try
the alternative OS rather than paying for microsoft license.

Why not taking this opportunity to make campaign to attract more people to
use Linux/BSD?
I hope, MAMPU or MyOSS could organize something ... for example during the
PC fair etc...

regards

~^4(R)iz??O??
Ahmad Rizal(R)Kuala Lumpur
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From ang.chin.han at gmail.com  Tue Dec  9 00:40:15 2008
From: ang.chin.han at gmail.com (Ang Chin Han)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 00:40:15 +0800
Subject: [myoss] Microsoft Black Screen = Linux/BSD Opportunity
In-Reply-To: <1c098afd0812080504gd53c132u1c6199484310c5e1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1c098afd0812080501o7d351a6bs70ea403ccf0ae015@mail.gmail.com>
	<1c098afd0812080504gd53c132u1c6199484310c5e1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8c8854360812080840r16955f0cse022fa8d91d54a9a@mail.gmail.com>

2008/12/8 Ahmad Rizal <arizabo at gmail.com>:

> I hope, MAMPU or MyOSS could organize something ... for example during the
> PC fair etc...

Great, we shall ping you as an evangelist volunteer for the next myoss
related event.
:)

From arizabo at gmail.com  Tue Dec  9 06:49:06 2008
From: arizabo at gmail.com (Ahmad Rizal)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 06:49:06 +0800
Subject: [myoss] Microsoft Black Screen = Linux/BSD Opportunity
In-Reply-To: <8c8854360812080840r16955f0cse022fa8d91d54a9a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1c098afd0812080501o7d351a6bs70ea403ccf0ae015@mail.gmail.com>
	<1c098afd0812080504gd53c132u1c6199484310c5e1@mail.gmail.com>
	<8c8854360812080840r16955f0cse022fa8d91d54a9a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1c098afd0812081449y4325b3abyc8c643846cf6a0fa@mail.gmail.com>

if date/time and location acceptable, you can count me in ...


~^4(R)iz??O??
Ahmad Rizal(R)Kuala Lumpur


On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 12:40 AM, Ang Chin Han <ang.chin.han at gmail.com>wrote:

> 2008/12/8 Ahmad Rizal <arizabo at gmail.com>:
>
> > I hope, MAMPU or MyOSS could organize something ... for example during
> the
> > PC fair etc...
>
> Great, we shall ping you as an evangelist volunteer for the next myoss
> related event.
> :)
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From dinesh at alphaque.com  Tue Dec  9 15:05:11 2008
From: dinesh at alphaque.com (Dinesh Nair)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 15:05:11 +0800
Subject: [myoss] Microsoft Black Screen = Linux/BSD Opportunity
In-Reply-To: <1c098afd0812080504gd53c132u1c6199484310c5e1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1c098afd0812080501o7d351a6bs70ea403ccf0ae015@mail.gmail.com>
	<1c098afd0812080504gd53c132u1c6199484310c5e1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081209150511.526c88e3@prophet.alphaque.com>

On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 21:04:41 +0800, Ahmad Rizal wrote:
> i have been helping some of the users to migrate to either ubuntu or
> fedora and the response also very good. i believe many others also
> willing to try the alternative OS rather than paying for microsoft
> license.

that's a good idea, which is why once both yusseri and i congratulated the
bsa fellas for their anti-piracy push, as it would just result in more
people moving to open source systems. 

-- 
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From kjteoh at ix.net.my  Wed Dec 10 16:56:34 2008
From: kjteoh at ix.net.my (kjteoh)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:56:34 +0800 (MYT)
Subject: [myoss] off topic
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0812101655580.3551@tomoko.arc.net.my>


Doea anyone drive a polo gti?  i am looking for feedback.  yah yah .. have 
done the google rounds already.

--
kjteoh

From decfiv at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 18 01:12:25 2008
From: decfiv at yahoo.com (master puppetz)
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:12:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [myoss] OLPC in Malaysia
Message-ID: <538276.36478.qm@web53303.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hi,

Does anybody from myoss has already contributing to OLPC project. If there is anybody interested in contribute, already contribute or just a history. feel free to mail me.

http://olpcmalaysia.blogspot.com



      
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From ditesh at gathani.org  Thu Dec 18 01:24:16 2008
From: ditesh at gathani.org (Ditesh Kumar)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 01:24:16 +0800
Subject: [myoss] OLPC in Malaysia
In-Reply-To: <538276.36478.qm@web53303.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <538276.36478.qm@web53303.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1229534657.3406.0.camel@europa.gathani.org>

On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 09:12 -0800, master puppetz wrote:
> Does anybody from myoss has already contributing to OLPC project. If
> there is anybody interested in contribute, already contribute or just
> a history. feel free to mail me.
> 
> http://olpcmalaysia.blogspot.com
> 

http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=en&q=olpc+malaysia&btnG=Google+Search&meta=


-- 
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May your references be bounded                ditesh at gathani.org
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From atchek at eware.com.my  Sat Dec 20 00:28:22 2008
From: atchek at eware.com.my (Ang Tun Chek)
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:28:22 +0800
Subject: [myoss] chroot VPS WIKI that i wrote
Message-ID: <494BCBA6.6030408@eware.com.my>

hi guys,
i recently wrote a wiki about chroot VPS , i would like hear any comment
or suggestion from you guys

http://myrinix.com/wiki/doku.php?id=chroot_vps

http://myrinix.com/wiki/doku.php?id=bind_ip


thanks

from
Ang Tun CHek




From nicholas at oscc.org.my  Mon Dec 22 10:28:18 2008
From: nicholas at oscc.org.my (Nicholas)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:28:18 +0800
Subject: [myoss] OLPC in Malaysia
In-Reply-To: <538276.36478.qm@web53303.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <538276.36478.qm@web53303.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <494EFB42.2040504@oscc.org.my>

Why the interest in OLPC?



master puppetz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Does anybody from myoss has already contributing to OLPC project. If 
> there is anybody interested in contribute, already contribute or just 
> a history. feel free to mail me.
>
> http://olpcmalaysia.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>
> -- 
>
> OSCC MAMPU MyMeeting Version 2.0 Release
> *http://knowledge.oscc.org.my/solution-areas/application/mymeeting*
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>   



--- 

OSCC MAMPU MyMeeting Version 2.0 Release
http://knowledge.oscc.org.my/solution-areas/application/mymeeting



From yeak at md.com.my  Tue Dec 23 07:46:01 2008
From: yeak at md.com.my (Yeak Nai Siew)
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:46:01 +0800
Subject: [myoss] OLPC in Malaysia
In-Reply-To: <494EFB42.2040504@oscc.org.my>
References: <538276.36478.qm@web53303.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<494EFB42.2040504@oscc.org.my>
Message-ID: <F1FE72EF-2D73-431B-8DB2-11E49702CE50@md.com.my>

I would like to get one OLPC in Malaysia if it is available.

If not mistaken, the web ordering is USD399, part of the fund is used  
to buy a unit for someone else decided by them, and part of it to buy  
for my own child (or me).

OLPC is cool isn't it? New idea, hopefully lightweight. Wifi... may be  
it is better than e-book that govt gave to Terengganu.



On 22/12/2008, at 10:28 AM, Nicholas wrote:

> Why the interest in OLPC?
>
>
>
> master puppetz wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Does anybody from myoss has already contributing to OLPC project.  
>> If there is anybody interested in contribute, already contribute or  
>> just a history. feel free to mail me.
>>
>> http://olpcmalaysia.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> OSCC MAMPU MyMeeting Version 2.0 Release
>> *http://knowledge.oscc.org.my/solution-areas/application/mymeeting*
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> myoss mailing list
>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>
>
>
>
> ---
> OSCC MAMPU MyMeeting Version 2.0 Release
> http://knowledge.oscc.org.my/solution-areas/application/mymeeting
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss


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From tonyphlau at gmail.com  Thu Dec 25 03:47:47 2008
From: tonyphlau at gmail.com (Tony Lau)
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 03:47:47 +0800
Subject: [myoss] chroot VPS WIKI that i wrote
In-Reply-To: <494BCBA6.6030408@eware.com.my>
References: <494BCBA6.6030408@eware.com.my>
Message-ID: <14cfc6530812241147i77e8ef11ra12793f31eb7317a@mail.gmail.com>

hmm, it looks more like a personal use VPS,
but it is a great tutorial if it is for teaching ppl to use their own
dedicated server to run this type of VPS.

and good for those ppl who r running on OpenVZ VPS to run a "VPS" in it.
thx for the tuts
:)



On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 12:28 AM, Ang Tun Chek <atchek at eware.com.my> wrote:

> hi guys,
> i recently wrote a wiki about chroot VPS , i would like hear any comment
> or suggestion from you guys
>
> http://myrinix.com/wiki/doku.php?id=chroot_vps
>
> http://myrinix.com/wiki/doku.php?id=bind_ip
>
>
> thanks
>
> from
> Ang Tun CHek
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
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From navynmr at gmail.com  Thu Dec 25 14:27:53 2008
From: navynmr at gmail.com (Navyn)
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 01:27:53 -0500
Subject: [myoss] chroot VPS WIKI that i wrote
In-Reply-To: <494BCBA6.6030408@eware.com.my>
References: <494BCBA6.6030408@eware.com.my>
Message-ID: <495327E9.1090605@gmail.com>

hi ang,

nice tutorial there, but would like to see more detailed technical info 
on chrooted VPSses. Maybe a chroot VPS and compared to like a freebsd 
jail. And the pros and cons of using them, and which to use in what 
situation and so on.

I don't know if a real jail if possible in linux because jail is tied to 
the kernel in freebsd i think, correct me if i'm wrong. Can someone 
confirm this, thx.

Ang Tun Chek wrote:
> hi guys,
> i recently wrote a wiki about chroot VPS , i would like hear any comment
> or suggestion from you guys
>
> http://myrinix.com/wiki/doku.php?id=chroot_vps
>
> http://myrinix.com/wiki/doku.php?id=bind_ip
>
>
> thanks
>
> from
> Ang Tun CHek
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss


-- 

~ Navyn


From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 25 17:10:59 2008
From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Izhar Firdaus)
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:10:59 +0800
Subject: [myoss] chroot VPS WIKI that i wrote
In-Reply-To: <495327E9.1090605@gmail.com>
References: <494BCBA6.6030408@eware.com.my> <495327E9.1090605@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c44298520812250110x61b99196n6698a7246fcad640@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Navyn <navynmr at gmail.com> wrote:
> hi ang,
>
> nice tutorial there, but would like to see more detailed technical info on
> chrooted VPSses. Maybe a chroot VPS and compared to like a freebsd jail. And
> the pros and cons of using them, and which to use in what situation and so
> on.

chroot != jails :)

>
> I don't know if a real jail if possible in linux because jail is tied to the
> kernel in freebsd i think, correct me if i'm wrong. Can someone confirm
> this, thx.

its possible .. alternatives for OS level virtualization in Linux
includes -> linux-vserver, OpenVZ, UserMode Linux. All except UserMode
Linux requires patch to the kernel .. but the documentation for for
UserModeLinux is sparse .... no GUI tools neither ..

>
> Ang Tun Chek wrote:
>>
>> hi guys,
>> i recently wrote a wiki about chroot VPS , i would like hear any comment
>> or suggestion from you guys
>>
>> http://myrinix.com/wiki/doku.php?id=chroot_vps
>>
>> http://myrinix.com/wiki/doku.php?id=bind_ip
>>
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> from
>> Ang Tun CHek
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> myoss mailing list
>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>
>
> --
>
> ~ Navyn
>
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>



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From atchek at eware.com.my  Sun Dec 28 14:09:41 2008
From: atchek at eware.com.my (Ang Tun Chek)
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 14:09:41 +0800
Subject: [myoss] chroot VPS WIKI that i wrote
In-Reply-To: <c44298520812250110x61b99196n6698a7246fcad640@mail.gmail.com>
References: <494BCBA6.6030408@eware.com.my> <495327E9.1090605@gmail.com>
	<c44298520812250110x61b99196n6698a7246fcad640@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200812281409.41546.atchek@eware.com.my>

current , it is not encourage chroot VPS user to gain root access as it can do 
anything to the system like  change network ip and kill process


On Thursday 25 December 2008 17:10:59 Izhar Firdaus wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Navyn <navynmr at gmail.com> wrote:
> > hi ang,
> >
> > nice tutorial there, but would like to see more detailed technical info
> > on chrooted VPSses. Maybe a chroot VPS and compared to like a freebsd
> > jail. And the pros and cons of using them, and which to use in what
> > situation and so on.
>
> chroot != jails :)
>
> > I don't know if a real jail if possible in linux because jail is tied to
> > the kernel in freebsd i think, correct me if i'm wrong. Can someone
> > confirm this, thx.
>
> its possible .. alternatives for OS level virtualization in Linux
> includes -> linux-vserver, OpenVZ, UserMode Linux. All except UserMode
> Linux requires patch to the kernel .. but the documentation for for
> UserModeLinux is sparse .... no GUI tools neither ..
>
> > Ang Tun Chek wrote:
> >> hi guys,
> >> i recently wrote a wiki about chroot VPS , i would like hear any comment
> >> or suggestion from you guys
> >>
> >> http://myrinix.com/wiki/doku.php?id=chroot_vps
> >>
> >> http://myrinix.com/wiki/doku.php?id=bind_ip
> >>
> >>
> >> thanks
> >>
> >> from
> >> Ang Tun CHek
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> myoss mailing list
> >> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> >> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
> >
> > --
> >
> > ~ Navyn
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > myoss mailing list
> > myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> > http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss


From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 27 17:30:12 2008
From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Izhar Firdaus)
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:30:12 +0800
Subject: [myoss] chroot VPS WIKI that i wrote
In-Reply-To: <200812281409.41546.atchek@eware.com.my>
References: <494BCBA6.6030408@eware.com.my> <495327E9.1090605@gmail.com>
	<c44298520812250110x61b99196n6698a7246fcad640@mail.gmail.com>
	<200812281409.41546.atchek@eware.com.my>
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On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Ang Tun Chek <atchek at eware.com.my> wrote:
> current , it is not encourage chroot VPS user to gain root access as it can do
> anything to the system like  change network ip and kill process
>

theres always local exploits :P

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