From ang.chin.han at gmail.com  Fri Oct  3 09:01:16 2008
From: ang.chin.han at gmail.com (Ang Chin Han)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 09:01:16 +0800
Subject: [myoss] Need some feedbacks on app extending Drupal
In-Reply-To: <48E1B10E.6090308@yclian.com>
References: <mailman.1.1222747201.60920.myoss@lists.foss.org.my>
	<A1162B0E146F4950970D70446F62DF67@NAJIBX>
	<48E1B10E.6090308@yclian.com>
Message-ID: <8c8854360810021801s5c157e61g9611b500f1bd144e@mail.gmail.com>

2008/9/30 Yuen-Chi Lian <me at yclian.com>:
> Hi Najib,

> What I can tell now is, I can reuse the module framework of Drupal and I
> do not need to rewrite a CMS. My application will also have stuff like
> dashboard/portlets, reporting, diff. user/role management, etc., which
> can all be written as Drupal modules (or in another words, PHP classes
> that Drupal modules make use of).

Drupal's modules are more classical procedural functions/hooks than
object oriented classes. Ala the implementation of GTK in C.

> My worries are, is extending Drupal a bad idea (Kamal had shared some of
> his experience, it worked for him), is it better if I reinvent those
> features instead of relying on such a heavy weight (quite) framework?

There'd be a critical point where it's easier to custom build over
using, extending or building custom drupal modules. It'd take some
experience to judge when that happens. If your requirements are
simple, and existing drupal modules look like they match yours, it's a
good bet to just go with drupal modules, otherwise, be prepared to
spend time wrestling with some minor Drupal gotchas.

On the other hand, we (at work) do quite a number of drupal stuff
these days, so rest assured that there's commercial support available
when you need it. ;)

We went with a hybrid model (drupal frontend, with cms stuff handled
by drupal, and a backend on kohana with a more Rails-ish Kohana
backend interfacing with drupal) to make sure that we have greater
control of the more complicated business logic. Customers' business
requirements change over time, and we need to be able to adapt to
those without having an additional layer of indirection.

I suggest doing a development spike with existing drupal modules
adapting to your requirements, then another trying to reinvent those
features you need including the features already in drupal. Don't
bother attempting custom drupal modules for now.

> Najib wrote:
>> Regarding a statement "Drupal is SLOW so try to look for something else if
>> you are in need for some speed", I am not totally agree with this. Well, it
>> depends your definition of "slow". It's probably not Drupal, rather your
>> implementation method, caching technique, PHP/APACHE/MYSQL Tuning, and so
>> forth. Can't simply put that statement on Drupal, or rather any CMS per say.
>> Performance and scalaibilty is a big topics.

Hijacking this to reply to najibx, sorry.

:) Just take my word on it, drupal is slower in terms of reqs/sec,
esp. to someone coming from a Java background. While you can make
drupal fast and scalable (mostly free with LAMP stacks), many
performance enhancements feels like workarounds to overcome some
architectural decisions. The good news is that drupal is fast
*enough*, and you can make it scale faster, and development and
maintenance of a new portal-like site is decently fast.

Make your own judgment:
http://2bits.com/articles/drupal-performance-tuning-and-optimization-for-large-web-sites.html
http://2bits.com/articles/advcache-and-memcached-benchmarks-with-drupal.html

Han,
dividing time between www.drupal.my and www.foss.my (when I get back
from .cn, and the name is up properly)

From yeak at md.com.my  Fri Oct  3 17:12:29 2008
From: yeak at md.com.my (Yeak Nai Siew)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 17:12:29 +0800
Subject: [myoss] Microsoft way to promote their product?
Message-ID: <31545EA0-EC52-42F0-9EDC-B5F49F6BD9AB@md.com.my>

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/wss2003/productinformation/wss2003r2-datasheet.mspx

Interesting. The datasheet is in Word format. Then they provide Word  
Viewer!

Everywhere else is PDF.



-- 
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From pythonium at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  4 10:30:41 2008
From: pythonium at yahoo.com (Mukhsein Johari)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 19:30:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [myoss] Blocking blogs
Message-ID: <342761.1906.qm@web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

But unlike the Murphy's, he's very bitter. :-P

(I meant Dinesh, not rpk, though rpk's a nutter in his own right)




----- Original Message ----
From: Dinesh Nair <dinesh at alphaque.com>
To: A general discussion list on Free/Open Source Software in Malaysia. <myoss at mail.foss.org.my>
Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2008 3:58:23 PM
Subject: Re: [myoss] Blocking blogs

On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:46:29 +0800, Sham Hardy [Worldid3a.com] wrote:

> here we go there, they block there we go that way.. Malaysian are smarter
> nowadays :)

sure they are, which is why they take rpk's rhetoric as gospel truth.


      

From kamal at smach.net  Sat Oct  4 18:35:36 2008
From: kamal at smach.net (kamal at smach.net)
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 18:35:36 +0800
Subject: [myoss] Need some feedbacks on app extending Drupal
In-Reply-To: <8c8854360810021801s5c157e61g9611b500f1bd144e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1.1222747201.60920.myoss@lists.foss.org.my>
	<A1162B0E146F4950970D70446F62DF67@NAJIBX>
	<48E1B10E.6090308@yclian.com>
	<8c8854360810021801s5c157e61g9611b500f1bd144e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ed4b2db80810040335ma5d03fw8ee61ad2e5dad183@mail.gmail.com>

Most of Drupal stuff centered around the 'node' system so if you
really want to take advantage of the available modules, you have to
develop your apps around the node concept. It's a hard decision. The
node is kind of some monolithic system. Everything has to be a node
(there's even a discussion whether to turn 'users' into 'node' !).

When I developed my previous application, I've decided to stay away
from the 'node' system and just make use of the menu system (as a
request dispatcher) and the excellent Form API. But when something
good such as the new View modules in D6 is out, aah damn it my app do
not use node so I can't take advantage of it. The good thing is, by
staying away from 'node' system my app is more portable outside of
drupal.

>Drupal's modules are more classical procedural functions/hooks than
>object oriented classes. Ala the implementation of GTK in C.
Drupal modules development somehow always being the most misunderstood
part of it. Compared to other 'MVC' style framework which required us
to subclass some part of it's component, Drupal modules is more like a
collection of libraries hook together. If you design it right, the
modules can just be a thin wrapper hooking your app into various
Drupal sub-system, while most of app logic reside within the external
libraries which is portable to other system. Of course it could also
be a class libraries. So it's possible to use object oriented classes
if you wish.

On 10/3/08, Ang Chin Han <ang.chin.han at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2008/9/30 Yuen-Chi Lian <me at yclian.com>:
>> Hi Najib,
>
>> What I can tell now is, I can reuse the module framework of Drupal and I
>> do not need to rewrite a CMS. My application will also have stuff like
>> dashboard/portlets, reporting, diff. user/role management, etc., which
>> can all be written as Drupal modules (or in another words, PHP classes
>> that Drupal modules make use of).
>
> Drupal's modules are more classical procedural functions/hooks than
> object oriented classes. Ala the implementation of GTK in C.
>
>> My worries are, is extending Drupal a bad idea (Kamal had shared some of
>> his experience, it worked for him), is it better if I reinvent those
>> features instead of relying on such a heavy weight (quite) framework?
>
> There'd be a critical point where it's easier to custom build over
> using, extending or building custom drupal modules. It'd take some
> experience to judge when that happens. If your requirements are
> simple, and existing drupal modules look like they match yours, it's a
> good bet to just go with drupal modules, otherwise, be prepared to
> spend time wrestling with some minor Drupal gotchas.
>
> On the other hand, we (at work) do quite a number of drupal stuff
> these days, so rest assured that there's commercial support available
> when you need it. ;)
>
> We went with a hybrid model (drupal frontend, with cms stuff handled
> by drupal, and a backend on kohana with a more Rails-ish Kohana
> backend interfacing with drupal) to make sure that we have greater
> control of the more complicated business logic. Customers' business
> requirements change over time, and we need to be able to adapt to
> those without having an additional layer of indirection.
>
> I suggest doing a development spike with existing drupal modules
> adapting to your requirements, then another trying to reinvent those
> features you need including the features already in drupal. Don't
> bother attempting custom drupal modules for now.
>
>> Najib wrote:
>>> Regarding a statement "Drupal is SLOW so try to look for something else
>>> if
>>> you are in need for some speed", I am not totally agree with this. Well,
>>> it
>>> depends your definition of "slow". It's probably not Drupal, rather your
>>> implementation method, caching technique, PHP/APACHE/MYSQL Tuning, and so
>>> forth. Can't simply put that statement on Drupal, or rather any CMS per
>>> say.
>>> Performance and scalaibilty is a big topics.
>
> Hijacking this to reply to najibx, sorry.
>
> :) Just take my word on it, drupal is slower in terms of reqs/sec,
> esp. to someone coming from a Java background. While you can make
> drupal fast and scalable (mostly free with LAMP stacks), many
> performance enhancements feels like workarounds to overcome some
> architectural decisions. The good news is that drupal is fast
> *enough*, and you can make it scale faster, and development and
> maintenance of a new portal-like site is decently fast.
>
> Make your own judgment:
> http://2bits.com/articles/drupal-performance-tuning-and-optimization-for-large-web-sites.html
> http://2bits.com/articles/advcache-and-memcached-benchmarks-with-drupal.html
>
> Han,
> dividing time between www.drupal.my and www.foss.my (when I get back
> from .cn, and the name is up properly)
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>


-- 
kamal, www.k4ml.com

From kaeru at inigo-tech.com  Mon Oct  6 09:54:55 2008
From: kaeru at inigo-tech.com (Khairil Yusof)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:54:55 +0800
Subject: [myoss] Meetup: Group walking from Pasar Seni to AEU
Message-ID: <1223258095.10162.29.camel@wolverine>

As this is first time for quite a few of us to get to AeU, I'm
organising a group walk from Pasar Seni LRT Station to AeU.

Meet up near the ticket exit at 6:45pm Friday 10pm. I'll be wearing a
black Ubuntu Malaysia t-shirt. We will be leaving at 7:00pm.

See you guys then.






From kaeru at inigo-tech.com  Mon Oct  6 12:34:55 2008
From: kaeru at inigo-tech.com (Khairil Yusof)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:34:55 +0800
Subject: [myoss] Meetup: Group walking from Pasar Seni to AEU
In-Reply-To: <1223258095.10162.29.camel@wolverine>
References: <1223258095.10162.29.camel@wolverine>
Message-ID: <1223267695.29187.0.camel@wolverine>

On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 09:54 +0800, Khairil Yusof wrote:
> organising a group walk from Pasar Seni LRT Station to AeU.
> 
> Meet up near the ticket exit at 6:45pm Friday 10pm. I'll be wearing a
> black Ubuntu Malaysia t-shirt. We will be leaving at 7:00pm.

Uh um.. that's 6.45pm Friday 10th October.


From kaeru at inigo-tech.com  Mon Oct  6 12:34:55 2008
From: kaeru at inigo-tech.com (Khairil Yusof)
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:34:55 +0800
Subject: [myoss] Meetup: Group walking from Pasar Seni to AEU
In-Reply-To: <1223258095.10162.29.camel@wolverine>
References: <1223258095.10162.29.camel@wolverine>
Message-ID: <1223267695.29187.0.camel@wolverine>

On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 09:54 +0800, Khairil Yusof wrote:
> organising a group walk from Pasar Seni LRT Station to AeU.
> 
> Meet up near the ticket exit at 6:45pm Friday 10pm. I'll be wearing a
> black Ubuntu Malaysia t-shirt. We will be leaving at 7:00pm.

Uh um.. that's 6.45pm Friday 10th October.


From aizat.faiz at gmail.com  Sat Oct 11 05:24:00 2008
From: aizat.faiz at gmail.com (Ezwan Aizat Bin Abdullah Faiz)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 05:24:00 +0800
Subject: [myoss] FOSS.my 2008
Message-ID: <ecb152260810101424p3c1eba86t5a674883215d5ea5@mail.gmail.com>

>From http://foss.my/

FOSS.my 2008 is Malaysia's premier Free and Open Source Software
(FOSS) event. Whilst this is our first go at it, we aim for this to be
an annual event bringing together professionals and enthusiasts from
Malaysia, Singapore, Asia and the rest of the world for a two day
grassroots driven FOSS conference.

FOSS.my is different from other events in that we focus only on FOSS
and that this conference is purely non-commercial. There will be no
marketing/sales talks by vendors (we are very strict on this!) so all
that is presented is FOSS goodness! Instead, vendors will be
encouraged to speak on the FOSS technical aspects of their
projects/tools. This approach works better as it benefits all through
knowledge sharing within the community.

Do explore this website to find out more about the event, and how you
can participate as a speaker, delegate, volunteer, exhibitor or
sponsor!

When: November 8-9th
Venue: APIIT http://foss.my/venue/
Schedule: http://foss.my/schedule/
Register: http://foss.my/register/
Volunteer: http://foss.my/volunteer/
Call For Participation: http://foss.my/call-for-participation/

Spread the Buzz: http://foss.my/buzz/

Follow us on Twitter: http//twitter.com/fossmy/
Follow us on Identi.ca: http://identi.ca/fossmy/

Join the Facebook Event: http://www.new.facebook.com/event.php?eid=31768802826

-- 
aizatto - sleep, to the power of z -_-;;^zzz

From mij at irwan.name  Tue Oct 14 10:23:33 2008
From: mij at irwan.name (Mohd Irwan Jamaluddin)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:23:33 +0800
Subject: [myoss] OpenOffice.org 3.0 Has Been Released
Message-ID: <b3d998b00810131923y58445200w6edc6b348c11f768@mail.gmail.com>

>From OpenOffice.org,

/* Apologies - our website is struggling to cope with the unprecedented
demand for the new release 3.0 of OpenOffice.org. The technical teams are
trying to come up with a solution.

Thank you for your patience. */

-- 
Regards,
Mohd Irwan Jamaluddin
Web: http://www.irwan.name/
Blog: http://blog.irwan.name/

From najmi.zabidi at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 11:28:46 2008
From: najmi.zabidi at gmail.com (Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:28:46 +0800
Subject: [myoss] OpenOffice.org 3.0 Has Been Released
In-Reply-To: <b3d998b00810131923y58445200w6edc6b348c11f768@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b3d998b00810131923y58445200w6edc6b348c11f768@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <cf09ac7f0810132028j719cdcf0hda9e4db0351683aa@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Mohd Irwan Jamaluddin <mij at irwan.name> wrote:
> >From OpenOffice.org,
>
> /* Apologies - our website is struggling to cope with the unprecedented
> demand for the new release 3.0 of OpenOffice.org. The technical teams are
> trying to come up with a solution.
>
> Thank you for your patience. */
>


Shipped with free candies or at least samprit cookies?

From nbliang at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 11:41:44 2008
From: nbliang at gmail.com (Nicholas Ng)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:41:44 +0800
Subject: [myoss] OpenOffice.org 3.0 Has Been Released
In-Reply-To: <cf09ac7f0810132028j719cdcf0hda9e4db0351683aa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b3d998b00810131923y58445200w6edc6b348c11f768@mail.gmail.com>
	<cf09ac7f0810132028j719cdcf0hda9e4db0351683aa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <de91f8ba0810132041t187f58c4lf9ec5866cf405a30@mail.gmail.com>

You can grab it from
http://mirrors.evolva.ro/openoffice.org/stable/3.0.0/OOo_3.0.0_Win32Intel_install_wJRE_en-US.exe
but the line is very damned slow for now.

Already sent out message to OSCC to update their mirror so we all can
grab it from Malaysia mirror.


Cheers,

Nicholas Ng
Sarawak, Malaysia


On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi
<najmi.zabidi at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Mohd Irwan Jamaluddin <mij at irwan.name> wrote:
>> >From OpenOffice.org,
>>
>> /* Apologies - our website is struggling to cope with the unprecedented
>> demand for the new release 3.0 of OpenOffice.org. The technical teams are
>> trying to come up with a solution.
>>
>> Thank you for your patience. */
>>
>
>
> Shipped with free candies or at least samprit cookies?
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>

From kjteoh at ix.net.my  Tue Oct 14 11:58:23 2008
From: kjteoh at ix.net.my (kjteoh)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:58:23 +0800 (MYT)
Subject: [myoss] OpenOffice.org 3.0 Has Been Released
In-Reply-To: <de91f8ba0810132041t187f58c4lf9ec5866cf405a30@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b3d998b00810131923y58445200w6edc6b348c11f768@mail.gmail.com>
	<cf09ac7f0810132028j719cdcf0hda9e4db0351683aa@mail.gmail.com>
	<de91f8ba0810132041t187f58c4lf9ec5866cf405a30@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141157190.19315@jaime.arc.net.my>


Hmm ...

Welp, am downloading copies now .. will put them up at

ftp://203.115.226.130/pub  (anonymous) in a few minutes.  no sweat.


--
kjteoh

On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Nicholas Ng wrote:

> You can grab it from
> http://mirrors.evolva.ro/openoffice.org/stable/3.0.0/OOo_3.0.0_Win32Intel_install_wJRE_en-US.exe
> but the line is very damned slow for now.
>
> Already sent out message to OSCC to update their mirror so we all can
> grab it from Malaysia mirror.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Nicholas Ng
> Sarawak, Malaysia
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi
> <najmi.zabidi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Mohd Irwan Jamaluddin <mij at irwan.name> wrote:
>>>> From OpenOffice.org,
>>>
>>> /* Apologies - our website is struggling to cope with the unprecedented
>>> demand for the new release 3.0 of OpenOffice.org. The technical teams are
>>> trying to come up with a solution.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your patience. */
>>>
>>
>>
>> Shipped with free candies or at least samprit cookies?
>> _______________________________________________
>> myoss mailing list
>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>

From kjteoh at ix.net.my  Tue Oct 14 12:20:09 2008
From: kjteoh at ix.net.my (kjteoh)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:20:09 +0800 (MYT)
Subject: [myoss] OpenOffice 3.0
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141218270.19615@jaime.arc.net.my>


For those of you who require it ..

ftp://203.115.226.130/pub/openoffice/3.0/

OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz
OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg
OOo_3.0.0_Win32Intel_install_wJRE_en-US.exe


more will follow as soon as i get them.

cheers.


--
kjteoh

From nbliang at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 12:23:55 2008
From: nbliang at gmail.com (Nicholas Ng)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:23:55 +0800
Subject: [myoss] OpenOffice 3.0
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141218270.19615@jaime.arc.net.my>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141218270.19615@jaime.arc.net.my>
Message-ID: <de91f8ba0810132123m39132210scb418ba0f3fde7bd@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the links.

OSCC is also updating the mirror but not yet completed. You can check
it out here: http://mirror.oscc.org.my/openoffice/stable/3.0.0/


Cheers,

Nicholas Ng
Sarawak, Malaysia


On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:20 PM, kjteoh <kjteoh at ix.net.my> wrote:
>
> For those of you who require it ..
>
> ftp://203.115.226.130/pub/openoffice/3.0/
>
> OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz
> OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg
> OOo_3.0.0_Win32Intel_install_wJRE_en-US.exe
>
>
> more will follow as soon as i get them.
>
> cheers.
>
>
> --
> kjteoh
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>

From kjusupov at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 12:26:19 2008
From: kjusupov at gmail.com (K. Jusupov)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:26:19 +0800
Subject: [myoss] OpenOffice 3.0
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141218270.19615@jaime.arc.net.my>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141218270.19615@jaime.arc.net.my>
Message-ID: <48F41F6B.1020604@gmail.com>

Thanks for the mirror, getting it around 140KB/s


On 10/14/08 12:20 PM, kjteoh wrote:
>
> For those of you who require it ..
>
> ftp://203.115.226.130/pub/openoffice/3.0/
>
> OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz
> OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg
> OOo_3.0.0_Win32Intel_install_wJRE_en-US.exe
>
>
> more will follow as soon as i get them.
>
> cheers.
>
>
> -- 
> kjteoh
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>

-- 
Rgds,
K. Jusupov

church is near but road is icy, bar is far but i will walk carefully...


From nbliang at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 12:28:46 2008
From: nbliang at gmail.com (Nicholas Ng)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:28:46 +0800
Subject: [myoss] OpenOffice 3.0
In-Reply-To: <48F41F6B.1020604@gmail.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141218270.19615@jaime.arc.net.my>
	<48F41F6B.1020604@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <de91f8ba0810132128l6b32f901l29058357f70e1e23@mail.gmail.com>

This [1] article mentioned some of the new features in OpenOffice.org 3.0.

[1] http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=751


Cheers,

Nicholas Ng
Sarawak, Malaysia


On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:26 PM, K. Jusupov <kjusupov at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the mirror, getting it around 140KB/s
>
>
> On 10/14/08 12:20 PM, kjteoh wrote:
>>
>> For those of you who require it ..
>>
>> ftp://203.115.226.130/pub/openoffice/3.0/
>>
>> OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz
>> OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg
>> OOo_3.0.0_Win32Intel_install_wJRE_en-US.exe
>>
>>
>> more will follow as soon as i get them.
>>
>> cheers.
>>
>>
>> --
>> kjteoh
>> _______________________________________________
>> myoss mailing list
>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>
>
> --
> Rgds,
> K. Jusupov
>
> church is near but road is icy, bar is far but i will walk carefully...
>
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>

From kjusupov at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 12:32:27 2008
From: kjusupov at gmail.com (K. Jusupov)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:32:27 +0800
Subject: [myoss] OpenOffice 3.0
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141218270.19615@jaime.arc.net.my>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141218270.19615@jaime.arc.net.my>
Message-ID: <48F420DB.5060702@gmail.com>

Hi,

Possible to have md5 hashes?

md5 OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg
MD5 (OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg) = 
f3941395280f43f1209d2926ed21bedc

My download was 19MB only, does not look right...

On 10/14/08 12:20 PM, kjteoh wrote:
>
> For those of you who require it ..
>
> ftp://203.115.226.130/pub/openoffice/3.0/
>
> OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz
> OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg
> OOo_3.0.0_Win32Intel_install_wJRE_en-US.exe
>
>
> more will follow as soon as i get them.
>
> cheers.
>
>
> -- 
> kjteoh
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>

-- 
Rgds,
K. Jusupov

church is near but road is icy, bar is far but i will walk carefully...


From atchek at eware.com.my  Tue Oct 14 13:04:40 2008
From: atchek at eware.com.my (Ang Tun Chek)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:04:40 +0800
Subject: [myoss] OpenOffice 3.0
In-Reply-To: <48F41F6B.1020604@gmail.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141218270.19615@jaime.arc.net.my>
	<48F41F6B.1020604@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F42868.3090003@eware.com.my>

really thank you!

K. Jusupov wrote:
> Thanks for the mirror, getting it around 140KB/s
>
>
> On 10/14/08 12:20 PM, kjteoh wrote:
>>
>> For those of you who require it ..
>>
>> ftp://203.115.226.130/pub/openoffice/3.0/
>>
>> OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz
>> OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg
>> OOo_3.0.0_Win32Intel_install_wJRE_en-US.exe
>>
>>
>> more will follow as soon as i get them.
>>
>> cheers.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> kjteoh
>> _______________________________________________
>> myoss mailing list
>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>
>


From kjteoh at ix.net.my  Tue Oct 14 13:16:48 2008
From: kjteoh at ix.net.my (kjteoh)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:16:48 +0800 (MYT)
Subject: [myoss] OpenOffice 3.0
In-Reply-To: <48F41F6B.1020604@gmail.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141218270.19615@jaime.arc.net.my>
	<48F41F6B.1020604@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141316140.20104@jaime.arc.net.my>


Hey .. no problem.  "Membership has its benefits!"


--
kjteoh

On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, K. Jusupov wrote:

> Thanks for the mirror, getting it around 140KB/s
>
>
> On 10/14/08 12:20 PM, kjteoh wrote:
>> 
>> For those of you who require it ..
>> 
>> ftp://203.115.226.130/pub/openoffice/3.0/
>> 
>> OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz
>> OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg
>> OOo_3.0.0_Win32Intel_install_wJRE_en-US.exe
>> 
>> 
>> more will follow as soon as i get them.
>> 
>> cheers.
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> kjteoh
>> _______________________________________________
>> myoss mailing list
>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>> 
>
> -- 
> Rgds,
> K. Jusupov
>
> church is near but road is icy, bar is far but i will walk carefully...
>
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>

From kjteoh at ix.net.my  Tue Oct 14 13:17:36 2008
From: kjteoh at ix.net.my (kjteoh)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:17:36 +0800 (MYT)
Subject: [myoss] OpenOffice 3.0
In-Reply-To: <48F420DB.5060702@gmail.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141218270.19615@jaime.arc.net.my>
	<48F420DB.5060702@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141317120.20121@jaime.arc.net.my>


Your the guy grabbing the Aqua .. I though so too .. Give me a moment to 
check it out again.


--
kjteoh

On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, K. Jusupov wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Possible to have md5 hashes?
>
> md5 OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg
> MD5 (OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg) = 
> f3941395280f43f1209d2926ed21bedc
>
> My download was 19MB only, does not look right...
>
> On 10/14/08 12:20 PM, kjteoh wrote:
>> 
>> For those of you who require it ..
>> 
>> ftp://203.115.226.130/pub/openoffice/3.0/
>> 
>> OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz
>> OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg
>> OOo_3.0.0_Win32Intel_install_wJRE_en-US.exe
>> 
>> 
>> more will follow as soon as i get them.
>> 
>> cheers.
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> kjteoh
>> _______________________________________________
>> myoss mailing list
>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>> 
>
> -- 
> Rgds,
> K. Jusupov
>
> church is near but road is icy, bar is far but i will walk carefully...
>
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>

From kjteoh at ix.net.my  Tue Oct 14 13:21:03 2008
From: kjteoh at ix.net.my (kjteoh)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:21:03 +0800 (MYT)
Subject: [myoss] OpenOffice 3.0
In-Reply-To: <48F420DB.5060702@gmail.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141218270.19615@jaime.arc.net.my>
	<48F420DB.5060702@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141319560.20121@jaime.arc.net.my>


The OO*AQUA* .. "spoilt" atm.  Have removed it.  Am currently downloading 
it again.  Will check hashs once its here.  Sorry.  Give me bout 15 mins.


--
kjteoh

On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, K. Jusupov wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Possible to have md5 hashes?
>
> md5 OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg
> MD5 (OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg) = 
> f3941395280f43f1209d2926ed21bedc
>
> My download was 19MB only, does not look right...
>
> On 10/14/08 12:20 PM, kjteoh wrote:
>> 
>> For those of you who require it ..
>> 
>> ftp://203.115.226.130/pub/openoffice/3.0/
>> 
>> OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz
>> OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg
>> OOo_3.0.0_Win32Intel_install_wJRE_en-US.exe
>> 
>> 
>> more will follow as soon as i get them.
>> 
>> cheers.
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> kjteoh
>> _______________________________________________
>> myoss mailing list
>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>> 
>
> -- 
> Rgds,
> K. Jusupov
>
> church is near but road is icy, bar is far but i will walk carefully...
>
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>

From ericsya at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 14 13:02:20 2008
From: ericsya at yahoo.com (LoVeLyN)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:02:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [myoss] Job Opportunity - Implementation Consultant & Support
	Consultant
Message-ID: <544205.81087.qm@web50407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Capital Market Solutions, located at Jalan Raja Chulan, KL is looking for Implementation
Consultant (3 positions) and Support Consultant (3 positions). The job
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From kjteoh at ix.net.my  Tue Oct 14 13:31:16 2008
From: kjteoh at ix.net.my (kjteoh)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:31:16 +0800 (MYT)
Subject: [myoss] OpenOffice 3.0 (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141328400.20210@jaime.arc.net.my>


Right Gentlemen ..

ftp://203.115.226.130/pub/openoffice/3.0#

OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz
OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_wJRE_en-US.tar.gz
OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg
OOo_3.0.0_Solarisx86_install_wJRE_en-US.tar.gz
OOo_3.0.0_Win32Intel_install_wJRE_en-US.exe
md5sum.keys

and the corresponding keys.  Was at www.openoffice.org and could not find 
any keys for comparison.  Didnt try too hard tho.  But they all look right 
ranging from 143Mb - 173Mbs.

32547ea6c71544df4558976c4cb820c7 
OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz

81230796a2bb5de24d43628dfb5550b0 
OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_wJRE_en-US.tar.gz

c0e94d345e1aaedf4dfe4f5fb0c18f71 
OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg

e64aa877e2704690442d3d0ed69d81f4 
OOo_3.0.0_Solarisx86_install_wJRE_en-US.tar.gz

c923e02ef7099cf5363220eff8203105 
OOo_3.0.0_Win32Intel_install_wJRE_en-US.exe





--
kjteoh

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:21:03 +0800 (MYT)
From: kjteoh <kjteoh at ix.net.my>
To: A general discussion list on Free/Open Source Software in Malaysia.
     <myoss at lists.foss.org.my>
Subject: Re: [myoss] OpenOffice 3.0


The OO*AQUA* .. "spoilt" atm.  Have removed it.  Am currently downloading it 
again.  Will check hashs once its here.  Sorry.  Give me bout 15 mins.


--
kjteoh

On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, K. Jusupov wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Possible to have md5 hashes?
> 
> md5 OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg
> MD5 (OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg) = 
> f3941395280f43f1209d2926ed21bedc
> 
> My download was 19MB only, does not look right...
> 
> On 10/14/08 12:20 PM, kjteoh wrote:
>> 
>> For those of you who require it ..
>> 
>> ftp://203.115.226.130/pub/openoffice/3.0/
>> 
>> OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz
>> OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg
>> OOo_3.0.0_Win32Intel_install_wJRE_en-US.exe
>> 
>> 
>> more will follow as soon as i get them.
>> 
>> cheers.
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> kjteoh
>> _______________________________________________
>> myoss mailing list
>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Rgds,
> K. Jusupov
> 
> church is near but road is icy, bar is far but i will walk carefully...
> 
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>

From kjusupov at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 14:27:03 2008
From: kjusupov at gmail.com (K. Jusupov)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:27:03 +0800
Subject: [myoss] OpenOffice 3.0
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141317120.20121@jaime.arc.net.my>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141218270.19615@jaime.arc.net.my>	<48F420DB.5060702@gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141317120.20121@jaime.arc.net.my>
Message-ID: <48F43BB7.2080701@gmail.com>

:)

Got it again, this time everything is OK, got it up and running... 
Thanks again!


On 10/14/08 1:17 PM, kjteoh wrote:
>
> Your the guy grabbing the Aqua .. I though so too .. Give me a moment 
> to check it out again.
>
>
> -- 
> kjteoh
>
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, K. Jusupov wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Possible to have md5 hashes?
>>
>> md5 OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg
>> MD5 (OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg) = 
>> f3941395280f43f1209d2926ed21bedc
>>
>> My download was 19MB only, does not look right...
>>
>> On 10/14/08 12:20 PM, kjteoh wrote:
>>>
>>> For those of you who require it ..
>>>
>>> ftp://203.115.226.130/pub/openoffice/3.0/
>>>
>>> OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz
>>> OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg
>>> OOo_3.0.0_Win32Intel_install_wJRE_en-US.exe
>>>
>>>
>>> more will follow as soon as i get them.
>>>
>>> cheers.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> kjteoh
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> myoss mailing list
>>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Rgds,
>> K. Jusupov
>>
>> church is near but road is icy, bar is far but i will walk carefully...
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> myoss mailing list
>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>

-- 
Rgds,
K. Jusupov

church is near but road is icy, bar is far but i will walk carefully...


From nbliang at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 14:31:50 2008
From: nbliang at gmail.com (Nicholas Ng)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:31:50 +0800
Subject: [myoss] OpenOffice 3.0
In-Reply-To: <48F43BB7.2080701@gmail.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141218270.19615@jaime.arc.net.my>
	<48F420DB.5060702@gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141317120.20121@jaime.arc.net.my>
	<48F43BB7.2080701@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <de91f8ba0810132331u4a77351ey62d5741aec1eadc2@mail.gmail.com>

Teoh,

Why not host it permanently at the server, together with other
applications / Linux distro? Will be good to have more mirror locally
(in Malaysia) hosting up FOSS.

Just my suggestion. ;-)


Cheers,

Nicholas Ng
Sarawak, Malaysia


On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 2:27 PM, K. Jusupov <kjusupov at gmail.com> wrote:
> :)
>
> Got it again, this time everything is OK, got it up and running... Thanks
> again!
>
>
> On 10/14/08 1:17 PM, kjteoh wrote:
>>
>> Your the guy grabbing the Aqua .. I though so too .. Give me a moment to
>> check it out again.
>>
>>
>> --
>> kjteoh
>>
>> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, K. Jusupov wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Possible to have md5 hashes?
>>>
>>> md5 OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg
>>> MD5 (OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg) =
>>> f3941395280f43f1209d2926ed21bedc
>>>
>>> My download was 19MB only, does not look right...
>>>
>>> On 10/14/08 12:20 PM, kjteoh wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For those of you who require it ..
>>>>
>>>> ftp://203.115.226.130/pub/openoffice/3.0/
>>>>
>>>> OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz
>>>> OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg
>>>> OOo_3.0.0_Win32Intel_install_wJRE_en-US.exe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> more will follow as soon as i get them.
>>>>
>>>> cheers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> kjteoh
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> myoss mailing list
>>>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>>>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rgds,
>>> K. Jusupov
>>>
>>> church is near but road is icy, bar is far but i will walk carefully...
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> myoss mailing list
>>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> myoss mailing list
>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>
>
> --
> Rgds,
> K. Jusupov
>
> church is near but road is icy, bar is far but i will walk carefully...
>
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>

From kjteoh at ix.net.my  Tue Oct 14 14:39:13 2008
From: kjteoh at ix.net.my (kjteoh)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:39:13 +0800 (MYT)
Subject: [myoss] OpenOffice 3.0
In-Reply-To: <de91f8ba0810132331u4a77351ey62d5741aec1eadc2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141218270.19615@jaime.arc.net.my>
	<48F420DB.5060702@gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141317120.20121@jaime.arc.net.my>
	<48F43BB7.2080701@gmail.com>
	<de91f8ba0810132331u4a77351ey62d5741aec1eadc2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141438240.20974@jaime.arc.net.my>


why dont you ftp over and tell me what you see ?


--
kjteoh

On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Nicholas Ng wrote:

> Teoh,
>
> Why not host it permanently at the server, together with other
> applications / Linux distro? Will be good to have more mirror locally
> (in Malaysia) hosting up FOSS.
>
> Just my suggestion. ;-)
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Nicholas Ng
> Sarawak, Malaysia
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 2:27 PM, K. Jusupov <kjusupov at gmail.com> wrote:
>> :)
>>
>> Got it again, this time everything is OK, got it up and running... Thanks
>> again!
>>
>>
>> On 10/14/08 1:17 PM, kjteoh wrote:
>>>
>>> Your the guy grabbing the Aqua .. I though so too .. Give me a moment to
>>> check it out again.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> kjteoh
>>>
>>> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, K. Jusupov wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Possible to have md5 hashes?
>>>>
>>>> md5 OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg
>>>> MD5 (OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg) =
>>>> f3941395280f43f1209d2926ed21bedc
>>>>
>>>> My download was 19MB only, does not look right...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/14/08 12:20 PM, kjteoh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For those of you who require it ..
>>>>>
>>>>> ftp://203.115.226.130/pub/openoffice/3.0/
>>>>>
>>>>> OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz
>>>>> OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg
>>>>> OOo_3.0.0_Win32Intel_install_wJRE_en-US.exe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> more will follow as soon as i get them.
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> kjteoh
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> myoss mailing list
>>>>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>>>>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Rgds,
>>>> K. Jusupov
>>>>
>>>> church is near but road is icy, bar is far but i will walk carefully...
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> myoss mailing list
>>>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>>>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> myoss mailing list
>>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Rgds,
>> K. Jusupov
>>
>> church is near but road is icy, bar is far but i will walk carefully...
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> myoss mailing list
>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>

From nbliang at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 14:42:53 2008
From: nbliang at gmail.com (Nicholas Ng)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:42:53 +0800
Subject: [myoss] OpenOffice 3.0
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141438240.20974@jaime.arc.net.my>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141218270.19615@jaime.arc.net.my>
	<48F420DB.5060702@gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141317120.20121@jaime.arc.net.my>
	<48F43BB7.2080701@gmail.com>
	<de91f8ba0810132331u4a77351ey62d5741aec1eadc2@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141438240.20974@jaime.arc.net.my>
Message-ID: <de91f8ba0810132342h75ee8b95ic82c192b968f1908@mail.gmail.com>

Oh, hehe... my mistake. Seems like you already put up various apps and
distro up there. But is this FTP permanent? Can I publish it out for
public to access it?


Regards,

Nicholas Ng
Sarawak, Malaysia


On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 2:39 PM, kjteoh <kjteoh at ix.net.my> wrote:
>
> why dont you ftp over and tell me what you see ?
>
>
> --
> kjteoh
>
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Nicholas Ng wrote:
>
>> Teoh,
>>
>> Why not host it permanently at the server, together with other
>> applications / Linux distro? Will be good to have more mirror locally
>> (in Malaysia) hosting up FOSS.
>>
>> Just my suggestion. ;-)
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Nicholas Ng
>> Sarawak, Malaysia
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 2:27 PM, K. Jusupov <kjusupov at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>> Got it again, this time everything is OK, got it up and running... Thanks
>>> again!
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/14/08 1:17 PM, kjteoh wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Your the guy grabbing the Aqua .. I though so too .. Give me a moment to
>>>> check it out again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> kjteoh
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, K. Jusupov wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Possible to have md5 hashes?
>>>>>
>>>>> md5 OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg
>>>>> MD5 (OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg) =
>>>>> f3941395280f43f1209d2926ed21bedc
>>>>>
>>>>> My download was 19MB only, does not look right...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/14/08 12:20 PM, kjteoh wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For those of you who require it ..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ftp://203.115.226.130/pub/openoffice/3.0/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz
>>>>>> OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg
>>>>>> OOo_3.0.0_Win32Intel_install_wJRE_en-US.exe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> more will follow as soon as i get them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> kjteoh
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> myoss mailing list
>>>>>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>>>>>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Rgds,
>>>>> K. Jusupov
>>>>>
>>>>> church is near but road is icy, bar is far but i will walk carefully...
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> myoss mailing list
>>>>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>>>>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> myoss mailing list
>>>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>>>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rgds,
>>> K. Jusupov
>>>
>>> church is near but road is icy, bar is far but i will walk carefully...
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> myoss mailing list
>>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> myoss mailing list
>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>

From kjteoh at ix.net.my  Tue Oct 14 14:58:14 2008
From: kjteoh at ix.net.my (kjteoh)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:58:14 +0800 (MYT)
Subject: [myoss] OpenOffice 3.0
In-Reply-To: <de91f8ba0810132342h75ee8b95ic82c192b968f1908@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141218270.19615@jaime.arc.net.my>
	<48F420DB.5060702@gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141317120.20121@jaime.arc.net.my>
	<48F43BB7.2080701@gmail.com>
	<de91f8ba0810132331u4a77351ey62d5741aec1eadc2@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141438240.20974@jaime.arc.net.my>
	<de91f8ba0810132342h75ee8b95ic82c192b968f1908@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141451030.21122@jaime.arc.net.my>


Since Sept 2007 .. its been there.  And I guess the stuffs that up there 
are the kinda stuff I "believe" in i guess.  I cant be putting up 
ringtones yah?

I try to be "Malaysian" about it thus myrinix and embun in particular 
which sees some traffic.

The people who should really put something like that are the MyIX folks.

Anybody is generally welcome... for the better good of software and 
availability.

--
kjteoh

On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Nicholas Ng wrote:

> Oh, hehe... my mistake. Seems like you already put up various apps and
> distro up there. But is this FTP permanent? Can I publish it out for
> public to access it?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Nicholas Ng
> Sarawak, Malaysia
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 2:39 PM, kjteoh <kjteoh at ix.net.my> wrote:
>>
>> why dont you ftp over and tell me what you see ?
>>
>>
>> --
>> kjteoh
>>
>> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Nicholas Ng wrote:
>>
>>> Teoh,
>>>
>>> Why not host it permanently at the server, together with other
>>> applications / Linux distro? Will be good to have more mirror locally
>>> (in Malaysia) hosting up FOSS.
>>>
>>> Just my suggestion. ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Nicholas Ng
>>> Sarawak, Malaysia
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 2:27 PM, K. Jusupov <kjusupov at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> Got it again, this time everything is OK, got it up and running... Thanks
>>>> again!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/14/08 1:17 PM, kjteoh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Your the guy grabbing the Aqua .. I though so too .. Give me a moment to
>>>>> check it out again.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> kjteoh
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, K. Jusupov wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Possible to have md5 hashes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> md5 OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg
>>>>>> MD5 (OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg) =
>>>>>> f3941395280f43f1209d2926ed21bedc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My download was 19MB only, does not look right...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/14/08 12:20 PM, kjteoh wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For those of you who require it ..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ftp://203.115.226.130/pub/openoffice/3.0/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz
>>>>>>> OOo_3.0.0_MacOSXIntel_AQUA_install_en-US.dmg
>>>>>>> OOo_3.0.0_Win32Intel_install_wJRE_en-US.exe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> more will follow as soon as i get them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cheers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> kjteoh
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> myoss mailing list
>>>>>>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>>>>>>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Rgds,
>>>>>> K. Jusupov
>>>>>>
>>>>>> church is near but road is icy, bar is far but i will walk carefully...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> myoss mailing list
>>>>>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>>>>>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> myoss mailing list
>>>>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>>>>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Rgds,
>>>> K. Jusupov
>>>>
>>>> church is near but road is icy, bar is far but i will walk carefully...
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> myoss mailing list
>>>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>>>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> myoss mailing list
>>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> myoss mailing list
>> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
>> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>>
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>

From waisun.chia at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 15:33:38 2008
From: waisun.chia at gmail.com (Wai-Sun Chia)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:33:38 +0800
Subject: [myoss] Looking for Linux Instructor
Message-ID: <c14ec2ef0810140033o4e299c1dl238f87795c2963c8@mail.gmail.com>

Fellow FOSS Enthusiasts,
I have a training deal for the following Red Hat courses:

1. RHD221 Red Hat Linux Device Drivers
http://www.redhat.com/courses/rhd221_red_hat_linux_device_drivers/details/

2. RHD236 Red Hat Linux Kernel Internals
http://www.redhat.com/courses/rhd236_red_hat_linux_kernel_internals/details/


Note that these are advanced courses, the instructor would need to have
kernel development experience at the hardware device level.

The ideal candidate would be preferably or typically a senior embedded
engineer.

Please contact me directly with your CV.

Thanks.

Wai-Sun Chia <waisun at sqci.biz>
012-2936511
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From kjteoh at ix.net.my  Tue Oct 14 15:42:02 2008
From: kjteoh at ix.net.my (kjteoh)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:42:02 +0800 (MYT)
Subject: [myoss] Looking for Linux Instructor
In-Reply-To: <c14ec2ef0810140033o4e299c1dl238f87795c2963c8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c14ec2ef0810140033o4e299c1dl238f87795c2963c8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141540450.21518@jaime.arc.net.my>


wai-sun,

I'd be interested in  _attending_ (RH236) subject to my companies blah 
blah blah 
... so keep us posted here.  thanks.


--
kjteoh

On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Wai-Sun Chia wrote:

> Fellow FOSS Enthusiasts,
> I have a training deal for the following Red Hat courses:
>
> 1. RHD221 Red Hat Linux Device Drivers
> http://www.redhat.com/courses/rhd221_red_hat_linux_device_drivers/details/
>
> 2. RHD236 Red Hat Linux Kernel Internals
> http://www.redhat.com/courses/rhd236_red_hat_linux_kernel_internals/details/
>
>
> Note that these are advanced courses, the instructor would need to have
> kernel development experience at the hardware device level.
>
> The ideal candidate would be preferably or typically a senior embedded
> engineer.
>
> Please contact me directly with your CV.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Wai-Sun Chia <waisun at sqci.biz>
> 012-2936511
>

From najmi.zabidi at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 15:54:59 2008
From: najmi.zabidi at gmail.com (Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:54:59 +0800
Subject: [myoss] Looking for Linux Instructor
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141540450.21518@jaime.arc.net.my>
References: <c14ec2ef0810140033o4e299c1dl238f87795c2963c8@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141540450.21518@jaime.arc.net.my>
Message-ID: <cf09ac7f0810140054y6ec95cb7i81eb3afbcec60616@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 3:42 PM, kjteoh <kjteoh at ix.net.my> wrote:
>
> wai-sun,
>
> I'd be interested in  _attending_ (RH236) subject to my companies blah blah
> blah ... so keep us posted here.  thanks.
>


I think he's trying to find a trainer.

I would hope to attend the training though :D

From kjteoh at ix.net.my  Tue Oct 14 16:11:10 2008
From: kjteoh at ix.net.my (kjteoh)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:11:10 +0800 (MYT)
Subject: [myoss] Looking for Linux Instructor
In-Reply-To: <cf09ac7f0810140054y6ec95cb7i81eb3afbcec60616@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c14ec2ef0810140033o4e299c1dl238f87795c2963c8@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141540450.21518@jaime.arc.net.my>
	<cf09ac7f0810140054y6ec95cb7i81eb3afbcec60616@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141610460.21891@jaime.arc.net.my>

Yes he is .. in turn I'd be interested in attending the class.

--
kjteoh

On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 3:42 PM, kjteoh <kjteoh at ix.net.my> wrote:
>>
>> wai-sun,
>>
>> I'd be interested in  _attending_ (RH236) subject to my companies blah blah
>> blah ... so keep us posted here.  thanks.
>>
>
>
> I think he's trying to find a trainer.
>
> I would hope to attend the training though :D
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>

From teohuiming.work at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 16:40:40 2008
From: teohuiming.work at gmail.com (Teo Hui Ming)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:40:40 +0800
Subject: [myoss] Develop LaTeX class file for univ thesis
Message-ID: <73ec599d0810140140nd5a4acbsdc7738b3dd2c7340@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all, just a quick survey, does anyone here develop or maintain
LaTeX class file, especially for local univ. thesis?

Recently, we just started a project at [1] to develop LaTeX thesis
class file for Univ Teknologi Malaysia (UTM). After gone through the
pain of learning curve, I start to wonder if anyone else are working
on the same thing (or plan to do so). Perhaps we could merge the
efforts, less pain, more sleep time. :-)

For those who interested, a copy of our latest UTM thesis class file
(along with a sample pdf) is available at [2]. Of course, anyone who
wish to contribute or review code are more than welcomed.

[1] http://groups.google.com/group/utmthesis-discuss
[2] http://utmthesis-discuss.googlegroups.com/web/utmthesis-20081012.zip

-- 
Teo Hui Ming

From kjteoh at ix.net.my  Tue Oct 14 16:53:10 2008
From: kjteoh at ix.net.my (kjteoh)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:53:10 +0800 (MYT)
Subject: [myoss] Develop LaTeX class file for univ thesis
In-Reply-To: <73ec599d0810140140nd5a4acbsdc7738b3dd2c7340@mail.gmail.com>
References: <73ec599d0810140140nd5a4acbsdc7738b3dd2c7340@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0810141651460.22268@jaime.arc.net.my>


Many many years ago ... but there are really good samples at the once 
American Math Society .. something.  Even public.



--
kjteoh

On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Teo Hui Ming wrote:

> Hi all, just a quick survey, does anyone here develop or maintain
> LaTeX class file, especially for local univ. thesis?
>
> Recently, we just started a project at [1] to develop LaTeX thesis
> class file for Univ Teknologi Malaysia (UTM). After gone through the
> pain of learning curve, I start to wonder if anyone else are working
> on the same thing (or plan to do so). Perhaps we could merge the
> efforts, less pain, more sleep time. :-)
>
> For those who interested, a copy of our latest UTM thesis class file
> (along with a sample pdf) is available at [2]. Of course, anyone who
> wish to contribute or review code are more than welcomed.
>
> [1] http://groups.google.com/group/utmthesis-discuss
> [2] http://utmthesis-discuss.googlegroups.com/web/utmthesis-20081012.zip
>
> -- 
> Teo Hui Ming
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>

From najmi.zabidi at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 16:56:02 2008
From: najmi.zabidi at gmail.com (Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:56:02 +0800
Subject: [myoss] Develop LaTeX class file for univ thesis
In-Reply-To: <73ec599d0810140140nd5a4acbsdc7738b3dd2c7340@mail.gmail.com>
References: <73ec599d0810140140nd5a4acbsdc7738b3dd2c7340@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <cf09ac7f0810140156k133e14e3r916402c5fe835d81@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Teo Hui Ming <teohuiming.work at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all, just a quick survey, does anyone here develop or maintain
> LaTeX class file, especially for local univ. thesis?
>


Not aware about M'sian university .. to know that whether they're are
FOSS advocator, simply look in conference paper requirement whether
they required PDF/PS or .DOC is also allowed.

George Mason Univ is also put templates online:

http://cs.gmu.edu/~tr-admin/
http://thesis.gmu.edu/dtformsnew.htm

From liantze at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 19:51:41 2008
From: liantze at gmail.com (Lim Lian Tze)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:51:41 +0800
Subject: [myoss] Develop LaTeX class file for univ thesis
In-Reply-To: <73ec599d0810140140nd5a4acbsdc7738b3dd2c7340@mail.gmail.com>
References: <73ec599d0810140140nd5a4acbsdc7738b3dd2c7340@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <db6683a60810140451p7bf9fe17nab7bec7d7cdbf4c9@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Teo Hui Ming <teohuiming.work at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi all, just a quick survey, does anyone here develop or maintain
> LaTeX class file, especially for local univ. thesis?
>

I developed a LaTeX thesis class file for Universiti Sains Malaysia, simply
because I wanted to write my own thesis with LaTeX. Since then a number of
USM students have been using it too (I know because I get questions in the
e-mail now and then), but I don't know the exact number. Apparently some
supervisors are nudging their students to use LaTeX too.
You can find usmthesis.cls (and some other LaTeX writeup I've done) at
http://liantze.googlepages.com/latextypesetting#usmthesis

(OK so the page hasn't been updated for a while since I've been, er,
occupied with my pregnancy and childbirth...)

Recently, we just started a project at [1] to develop LaTeX thesis
> class file for Univ Teknologi Malaysia (UTM). After gone through the
> pain of learning curve, I start to wonder if anyone else are working
> on the same thing (or plan to do so). Perhaps we could merge the
> efforts, less pain, more sleep time. :-)


Would love to get in touch with other LaTeX users! Although merging the
class files (if that's what I understand by "merging efforts") might not be
practical, as each university has their own thesis formatting guidelines and
requirements.

- Lim Lian Tze -

Research Officer,
Computer-Aided Translation Unit
(Unit Terjemahan Melalui Komputer),
School of Computer Sciences,
Universiti Sains Malaysia,
11800 USM,
Penang, Malaysia.
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From teohuiming.work at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 22:44:31 2008
From: teohuiming.work at gmail.com (Teo Hui Ming)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:44:31 +0800
Subject: [myoss] Develop LaTeX class file for univ thesis
In-Reply-To: <db6683a60810140451p7bf9fe17nab7bec7d7cdbf4c9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <73ec599d0810140140nd5a4acbsdc7738b3dd2c7340@mail.gmail.com>
	<db6683a60810140451p7bf9fe17nab7bec7d7cdbf4c9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <73ec599d0810140744m69c1470es65b446204332849a@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/14 Lim Lian Tze <liantze at gmail.com>:
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Teo Hui Ming <teohuiming.work at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> You can find usmthesis.cls (and some other LaTeX writeup I've done)
> at http://liantze.googlepages.com/latextypesetting#usmthesis

Great, I will check out the class file. Thanks :-)

>> Recently, we just started a project at [1] to develop LaTeX thesis
>> class file for Univ Teknologi Malaysia (UTM). After gone through the
>> pain of learning curve, I start to wonder if anyone else are working
>> on the same thing (or plan to do so). Perhaps we could merge the
>> efforts, less pain, more sleep time. :-)
>
> Would love to get in touch with other LaTeX users! Although merging the
> class files (if that's what I understand by "merging efforts") might not be
> practical, as each university has their own thesis formatting guidelines and
> requirements.

Well, we all know merging class files is a *scary* idea. ;-)

What I mean is sharing technical how-to, e.g. to set line spacing to
1.5 (how do we do it, which are better ones?) or more thesis-specific
such as, how do you implement "List of Acronymns" (why this
implementation works better?). In case LaTeX users from other local
univ need to build another thesis class file from stretch, a list of
thesis-specific how-tos will save them a lot of time.


-- 
Teo Hui Ming

From teohuiming.work at gmail.com  Tue Oct 14 22:48:29 2008
From: teohuiming.work at gmail.com (Teo Hui Ming)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:48:29 +0800
Subject: [myoss] Develop LaTeX class file for univ thesis
In-Reply-To: <cf09ac7f0810140156k133e14e3r916402c5fe835d81@mail.gmail.com>
References: <73ec599d0810140140nd5a4acbsdc7738b3dd2c7340@mail.gmail.com>
	<cf09ac7f0810140156k133e14e3r916402c5fe835d81@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <73ec599d0810140748s4ddda995i6839296408a57228@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi
<najmi.zabidi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Not aware about M'sian university .. to know that whether they're are
> FOSS advocator, simply look in conference paper requirement whether
> they required PDF/PS or .DOC is also allowed.
>
> George Mason Univ is also put templates online:
>
> http://cs.gmu.edu/~tr-admin/
> http://thesis.gmu.edu/dtformsnew.htm

Thanks, interestingly, I notice GMU template is packaged as LaTeX
package, rather than a LaTeX class.

-- 
Teo Hui Ming

From navynmr at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 04:02:06 2008
From: navynmr at gmail.com (Navyn)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:02:06 -0400
Subject: [myoss] I'm a PC
Message-ID: <48F4FABE.8010606@gmail.com>

http://imapc.lifewithoutwalls.com/

From giant.snail at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 09:33:53 2008
From: giant.snail at gmail.com (Sze Kai Gan)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:33:53 +0800
Subject: [myoss] NSW considers giving students Linux laptops
Message-ID: <86a1d910810141833x220451a8g13e9af39bf5d245@mail.gmail.com>

*http://www.australianit.news.com.au/story/0,24897,24490953-15306,00.html
*

*NSW secondary school students could be issued with $56 million worth of
Linux-based laptops as part of Kevin Rudd's digital education revolution.*

The state wants government secondary school students to tote around
computers built specifically for the education market.

Jim McAlpine, NSW Secondary Principals' Council president, said sellers
could look at offering non-proprietary software for the laptops, such as
Edubuntu, the education version of popular Linux distribution Ubuntu.

"The laptops can run on an open source operating system with a suite of open
source applications like those packaged under Edubuntu.

"This would include Open Office for productivity software, Gimp for picture
editing and the Firefox internet browser.

"Students would also have access to thousands of other open source
educational programs," Mr McAlpine said in briefing papers sent to NSW Labor
Party politicians and school principals two weeks ago.

A Microsoft Australia spokesperson said the company had not seen the
document and could not comment.

Open source software seller Red Hat is deeply entrenched in the NSW
government system but refuses to say which agencies it services. The company
has been lobbying government officials at both state and federal levels on
the benefits of open-source software.

In his first trip to Australia, Red Hat global chief executive Jim
Whitehurst said he would be meeting federal government officials in
Canberra, and other key customers.

"We're seeing a lot more engagement across the commercial and government
sectors," he said.

"IT budgets will be constrained due to the financial crisis but that is the
very reason to look at a more affordable way of doing things and ditch the
proprietary way."
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From najmi.zabidi at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 09:36:28 2008
From: najmi.zabidi at gmail.com (Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:36:28 +0800
Subject: [myoss] NSW considers giving students Linux laptops
In-Reply-To: <86a1d910810141833x220451a8g13e9af39bf5d245@mail.gmail.com>
References: <86a1d910810141833x220451a8g13e9af39bf5d245@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <cf09ac7f0810141836v402daf9bybb9e25d6fa36f3f1@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/15 Sze Kai Gan <giant.snail at gmail.com>:
> http://www.australianit.news.com.au/story/0,24897,24490953-15306,00.html

nice. wondering how much a piece costs.

From najmi.zabidi at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 09:37:55 2008
From: najmi.zabidi at gmail.com (Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:37:55 +0800
Subject: [myoss] Develop LaTeX class file for univ thesis
In-Reply-To: <db6683a60810140451p7bf9fe17nab7bec7d7cdbf4c9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <73ec599d0810140140nd5a4acbsdc7738b3dd2c7340@mail.gmail.com>
	<db6683a60810140451p7bf9fe17nab7bec7d7cdbf4c9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <cf09ac7f0810141837o6793e0b6ke7c91ec501b66416@mail.gmail.com>

2008/10/14 Lim Lian Tze <liantze at gmail.com>:
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Teo Hui Ming <teohuiming.work at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, just a quick survey, does anyone here develop or maintain
>> LaTeX class file, especially for local univ. thesis?
>
> I developed a LaTeX thesis class file for Universiti Sains Malaysia, simply
> because I wanted to write my own thesis with LaTeX. Since then a number of
> USM students have been using it too (I know because I get questions in the
> e-mail now and then), but I don't know the exact number. Apparently some
> supervisors are nudging their students to use LaTeX too.
> You can find usmthesis.cls (and some other LaTeX writeup I've done)
> at http://liantze.googlepages.com/latextypesetting#usmthesis


I think I still remembered attending your talk @ USM Postgrad Colloq
which regards to that LaTex thingy. Nice knowing you doing fine @
UTMK(USM).

From liantze at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 10:42:47 2008
From: liantze at gmail.com (Lim Lian Tze)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:42:47 +0800
Subject: [myoss] Develop LaTeX class file for univ thesis
In-Reply-To: <cf09ac7f0810141837o6793e0b6ke7c91ec501b66416@mail.gmail.com>
References: <73ec599d0810140140nd5a4acbsdc7738b3dd2c7340@mail.gmail.com>
	<db6683a60810140451p7bf9fe17nab7bec7d7cdbf4c9@mail.gmail.com>
	<cf09ac7f0810141837o6793e0b6ke7c91ec501b66416@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <db6683a60810141942ne70d0ffw6ae00832ffa3ff3e@mail.gmail.com>

>
> I think I still remembered attending your talk @ USM Postgrad Colloq
> which regards to that LaTex thingy. Nice knowing you doing fine @
> UTMK(USM).
>

You just made my day! I was wondering a bit if anyone'd remember that talk.
Thanks... :-)

- Lian Tze -
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From Adnanh at amdi.usm.edu.my  Thu Oct 16 09:43:57 2008
From: Adnanh at amdi.usm.edu.my (Adnan Hamid)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:43:57 +0800
Subject: [myoss] INVITATION - International Conference on Open Source
 Software in Healthcare (INCOSSH2008)
In-Reply-To: <D82FC3C02DC1B7488FC9B82A9EF8781C199C43E5B7@MAILBOX.amdi.usm.edu.my>
References: <D82FC3C02DC1B7488FC9B82A9EF8781C199C43E5B7@MAILBOX.amdi.usm.edu.my>
Message-ID: <D82FC3C02DC1B7488FC9B82A9EF8781C199C43E5B9@MAILBOX.amdi.usm.edu.my>

For further information, please visit our conference website at :-

http://bpio.amdi.usm.edu.my/incossh2008

Looking forward for your participation.

Organized by :
Advanced Medical and Dental Institute (AMDI), USM
United Nation University-Institute for Global Health (UNU-IIGH)
International Open Source Network (IOSN)
Capacity Building International Germany (InWent)

With cooperation of :
MAMPU
OSHCA

Thank you.
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From kjusupov at gmail.com  Thu Oct 23 13:30:28 2008
From: kjusupov at gmail.com (K. Jusupov)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:30:28 +0800
Subject: [myoss] Systems Engineer vacancy for a local company in KL
Message-ID: <49000BF4.5070000@gmail.com>

Hi all,

Friend of mine is looking for reasonably fresh Systems Engineer. Some 
info about the job as below:

Company is setup recently, pretty decent infra is being put together, 
about 10 servers, 25-30 desktops.

1. Manage Ubuntu Linux Servers (web and DB servers).
2. Manage MS Windows XP Pro desktops in workgroup setup (No Active 
Directory, and gang...)
3. Monday to Friday work

Requirements:

1. Some experience in setting up/maintaining of Linux (software/hardware 
raid), MS Windows
2. Some experience in writing/maintaining bash/perl/python scripts 
(backup/restore, automations, etc).
3. Some experience in LAN infra overall (cabling, troubleshooting, etc)

Those who're interested, please send resume (off mailing list) with 
current/expected salary expectations, availability time-frame, etc... 
Any other questions are welcome, will try my best to answer...

-- 
Rgds,
K. Jusupov

church is near but road is icy, bar is far but i will walk carefully...


From nbliang at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 15:21:44 2008
From: nbliang at gmail.com (Nicholas Ng)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:21:44 +0800
Subject: [myoss] Help with translating Debian Installer (D-I)
Message-ID: <de91f8ba0810240021h52c759d6k41dfcaf06a06b2cf@mail.gmail.com>

Hi folks,

I would like to invite those who interested in helping out to
translate the Debian Installer [1] into Malay, please head to the
Debian/Pootle localization server [2] and register yourself (for those
who haven't done so) and help out with it.

At the moment, the Debian/Pootle l10n server have problem where once
you have logged in you will be shown with an empty page. Simply remove
the "login.html" from the URL and you should be able to proceed.

Thank you.

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller
[2] http://i18n.debian.net:8080/


With best regards,

Nicholas Ng
Sarawak, Malaysia

From aizat.faiz at gmail.com  Sun Oct 26 23:34:46 2008
From: aizat.faiz at gmail.com (Ezwan Aizat Bin Abdullah Faiz)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:34:46 +0800
Subject: [myoss] FOSS.my Speaker List
Message-ID: <ecb152260810260834k563d01f0p8ccbb58e4ce92b92@mail.gmail.com>

Just in case you guys aren't aware, the FOSS.my speaker list has been update.
http://foss.my/schedule/#speakers

Quick List:
   1. Fun Things to do with Asterisk, by Alwin Chan
   2. Git: The New Hotness, by Kamal Fariz
   3. Hacking on phpMyAdmin (A Google Summer of Code project), by Raj
Kissu Rajandran
   4. Malaysian Challenges SAP!, by Redhuan Daniel Oon
   5. Open Source and the ORCA Screen Reader, by Silatul Rahim Dahman
   6. Anatomy of Fedora Kiosk Mode, by James Morris
   7. OSS at mixi.jp: Behind the Scenes, by Toru Maesaka
   8. memcached: Introduction to the Upcoming Goodness, by Toru Maesaka
   9. How Linux Gets My Dream Job at IBM, by Fajar Priyanto
  10. Linux High-Availability Cluster Presentation and Demo, by Fajar Priyanto
  11. How Open Source is accelerating innovation in the field of SaaS
and PaaS, by Jerome Gotangco
  12. Navigating The Commons : How To Get Free Stuff And Get Creative
(Legally!) by Nur Hussein
  13. Mac: A UNIX Programmer's Paradise by Jinny Wong
  14. Introduction To MyMeeting by Abdullah Zainul Abidin
  15. FOSS and Access to Knowledge by Jeremy Malcolm
  16. Your Linux is MORE THAN ready by Ong Tee Kok
  17. Building a Business with Open Source by Daniel CerVentus
  18. OLPC - deployments and communities by Pia Waugh
  19. Building strong FOSS communities by Pia Waugh
  20. Open Source Security by Eugene Teo
  21. MySQL Cluster in High performance environment by Ruchith Gunaratne
  22. What's great about Drupal Content Management System (CMS) by Najib Habeb
  23. Moving the Web Forward with Open Standards & Open Source by Pamela Fox
  24. Building Vibrant Open Source Communities by Gopi Ganapathy

Have you registered yet? Do it now!
http://foss.my/register/

Regards,
Aizat

-- 
aizatto - sleep, to the power of z -_-;;^zzz
http://foss.my - FOSS.my Nov 8-9

From nicholas at oscc.org.my  Wed Oct 29 16:09:16 2008
From: nicholas at oscc.org.my (nicholas at oscc.org.my)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:09:16 +0800 (MYT)
Subject: [myoss] Event Invitation: Workshop on Open Source and Open Content
 - December 2008, Bali
Message-ID: <20081029080916.D8F5B1350009@mail.oscc.org.my>

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From cymok at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 31 13:06:50 2008
From: cymok at yahoo.com (Mok Chee Yong)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:06:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [myoss] Forum Service
Message-ID: <966531.8942.qm@web56104.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Hi All,
?
1st of all, sorry for off topic.
?
I am looking for service provider that able to help me advertise in forums.
?
The provider usually is senior members in major forums and able to broadcast my "story" to all forum users by doing regular posting with forum accent. Therefore, other forum users will think the information if from other buyer, not from the seller.
?
Please contact me if you have any recommendations.
?
Hope you guys can help.
?
Regards,
Mok


      

From sharuzzaman at gmail.com  Fri Oct 31 15:33:43 2008
From: sharuzzaman at gmail.com (Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:33:43 +0800
Subject: [myoss] Forum Service
In-Reply-To: <966531.8942.qm@web56104.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <966531.8942.qm@web56104.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <295041390810310033m15593b74j8e076e461c76f158@mail.gmail.com>

You are trying to mislead the public and potential buyer.

Why don't you advertise honestly? Honesty is the best policy.

I would not recommend the seller if I know that he is doing this kind of
tactics. In fact, asking somebody to pretend that he is a happy customer
will not do any good, once one of the "real" customer found out that the
product/service is "just nice in words"

Bad review will spread like a wild fire after that.


On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Mok Chee Yong <cymok at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> 1st of all, sorry for off topic.
>
> I am looking for service provider that able to help me advertise in forums.
>
> The provider usually is senior members in major forums and able to
> broadcast my "story" to all forum users by doing regular posting with forum
> accent. Therefore, other forum users will think the information if from
> other buyer, not from the seller.
>
> Please contact me if you have any recommendations.
>
> Hope you guys can help.
>
> Regards,
> Mok
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> myoss mailing list
> myoss at lists.foss.org.my
> http://lists.foss.org.my/mailman/listinfo/myoss
>



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